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kandelabr April 11, 2018 04:16

Reference length for y+ estimation
 
Hello.

I understand that reference length in case of a flat plate of length 1m would be 1m.

But I'm trying to mesh a whole pump. The overall length of the body is known but the shape is far from a flat plate or even a pipe.

How do I choose the reference size for such cases?

Thanks!

FMDenaro April 11, 2018 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandelabr (Post 688393)
Hello.

I understand that reference length in case of a flat plate of length 1m would be 1m.

But I'm trying to mesh a whole pump. The overall length of the body is known but the shape is far from a flat plate or even a pipe.

How do I choose the reference size for such cases?

Thanks!

the function y+ is nothing else that the local Reynolds number measured using the distance from the wall in normal direction

ashokac7 April 11, 2018 04:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandelabr (Post 688393)
Hello.

I understand that reference length in case of a flat plate of length 1m would be 1m.

But I'm trying to mesh a whole pump. The overall length of the body is known but the shape is far from a flat plate or even a pipe.

How do I choose the reference size for such cases?

Thanks!

what reference length has to do with y+ estimation?

And for reference length for meshing etc. consider smallest and more important feature of geometry. Like diameter of hole or diameter of pipe or width of some face etc.

kandelabr April 11, 2018 06:05

So a good guess in my pump case would be inlet pipe diameter?

FMDenaro April 11, 2018 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandelabr (Post 688408)
So a good guess in my pump case would be inlet pipe diameter?

y+ is a function, not a value. For example, it starts from y+=0 at the wall pipe and reach the value of the Reynolds number (with radius as lenght) at the center of the pipe. The characteristic velocity u_tau is based on the stress at the wall

kandelabr April 11, 2018 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMDenaro (Post 688418)
y+ is a function, not a value.

Huh, that explains many things.
I get it now, thanks!


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