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June 25, 2018, 18:17 |
Meshfree CFD
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I'm looking for some software that doesn't require a mesh. The meshing is taking weeks and process time weeks more. Any ideas?
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June 25, 2018, 19:06 |
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Yes of course, grab some money and buy a Lattice-Boltzmann code. If you have some time Direct Numerical Simulation (DNS) would also be interesting for you.... ;o)
Or you can outsource the meshing part to some experts, who know what they are doing? Seriously, what are you meshing? |
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June 25, 2018, 19:39 |
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LB is actually a path we are looking into but would prefer commercial software.
Project is rotating a high-powered spray of liquid inside of a pipe (cleaning off the buildup with high pressure). Nozzle will rotate around central axis and travel along pipe. Pipe surfaces have bends and occasional protrusions. |
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June 25, 2018, 19:43 |
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Okay, sounds interesting. Palabos is indeed a LB-solver, which will be integrated in NUMECA's new environment OMNIS and will be commercially distributed. In about 10 hours there's a webinar about it. If you are interested in the actual status I can keep you updated. Meanwhile, you can check out https://www.numeca.com/product/omnislb .
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June 25, 2018, 20:40 |
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Having spent quite some time developing a grid generator for LB solvers, I am baffled every time it is categorized as a "meshless" method
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June 26, 2018, 04:11 |
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Flotus you are right of course - it was meant that the user does not need to spend time for mesh generation when using a LB code, since it is generated automatically.
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June 26, 2018, 11:55 |
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Take a look at CONVERGE software.
It creates the mesh automatically, has good capabilities for spray modelling and includes automatic mesh refinement. |
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June 26, 2018, 15:18 |
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the Converge software didn't do well with the auto mesh according to my co-worker. Any experience on using particles (Lagrangian) instead of a mesh?
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June 27, 2018, 04:10 |
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No I've have not used LB softwares yet.
I don't know what are the requirements you have for your mesh, I'm using Converge for internal combustion engines (moving mesh + complex physics) and I'm ok with it, I've never had serious problems with the mesh so far |
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June 27, 2018, 10:59 |
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I found this on the web under a search for Meshfree CFD and may do a trial (yes, I actually clicked on an ad...). Anybody familiar with ParticleWorks?
http://www.enginsoftusa.com/Mesh-Free-CFD.html |
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June 28, 2018, 15:57 |
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I think you should figure out how to mesh it. But I highly recommend numeca. I've also heard nice things about CONVERGE.
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July 24, 2018, 13:55 |
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Update - starting trial of LB method software. Will post how it does.
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July 29, 2018, 00:43 |
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You can try smoothed particle hydrodynamics. It is mainly used for simulations such as galactic motion or planetary collisions.
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August 24, 2018, 09:40 |
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We are in the process of working with ParticleWorks which uses what they call moving particle semi-implicit (MPS) method? Any experience with this software?
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September 22, 2018, 08:23 |
ISPH Code
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1. Incompressible SPH simulation of landslide impulse-generated water waves. Natural Hazards, 82(3), 1779-1802. 2. Modified variable mass incompressible SPH method for simulating internal fluid flows. Journal of the Brazilian Society of Mechanical Sciences and Engineering, 38(7), 2009-2027. 3. Eulerian ISPH Method for Simulating Internal Flows. Journal of Applied Fluid Mechanics, 9(3). 4. On the numerical simulation of the nonbreaking solitary waves run up on sloping beaches. Computers & Mathematics with Applications, 70(9), 2270-2281. 5. Comparative study on the accuracy of solitary wave generations in an ISPH-based numerical wave flume. Applied Ocean Research, 54, 115-136. 6. Simulating Solitary Wave Generation Using Incompressible SPH. Ann Limnol Oceanogr 1(1): 013-021. 7. On the Generation, Propagation and Runup of Solitary Water Waves on Steep Beaches, in 6th International Offshore Industries Conference (Tehran, Sharif University of Technology: 2015). 8. ISPH Numerical Simulation of Tsunami Generation by Submarine Landslides, Arabian Journal of Geosciences |
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June 3, 2019, 18:16 |
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specializedSPH - so does your code do something like this? Yes, I would like a copy.
https://enginsoftusa.com/Particlewor...y-Tsunami.html |
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June 8, 2019, 00:56 |
your qt for sph code from specializedSPH
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June 24, 2019, 12:31 |
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For anyone reading this post - specializedSPH is charging for the SPH code. This is not a free item like it implies with 'happy to send'
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July 4, 2019, 10:45 |
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Meshfree methods are a reasonable approach for only a relatively small number of engineering problems. |
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