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Old   December 4, 2001, 09:21
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which criteria are the most important to define a simulation good or bad?

IŽam working with cfdesign which is an add-on for MSC-Nastran and i simulate the flowforces in a hydraulic valve. The flow is turbulent with a pressuredrop of 70e+05 Pa and i use the K-eps turb. model.

There are effects i donŽt understand: - when a simulation is completed a take a look on the residualŽs of pressure and velocity, if they are small <0,001 iŽam defining the solution for convergent and the mesh for adequate.

- the second data i observe are the "y plus-values" on the walls of interest for the flowforces (shearstress*Area + pressure*Area)

=> now my problem is that i get only results that match with experimental results if the mesh is very fine, but the finer the mesh the smaller the y-plus values. The y-plus values should be in a range of 35 < y+ < 350; if they are to small the wallnear nodes are to close to the wall and do not represent the physic.

=> which criteria are most important for validating a result ?

=> are the y-plus values less important ?

=> ...


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Old   December 6, 2001, 14:55
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Hi Matthias,

Is it possible for you to refine your mesh everywhere except near the wall? As such, it is a clear requirement for the use of wall-functions that the first y+ should be between the range you have specified.

On the other hand, if you have the required resources to capture the sub-layer, why don't you use a low Re model right down to the wall??

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Old   December 6, 2001, 16:14
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The convergency it no measurement of the correctness of the solution.

If your mesh is too coarse then even a converged solution might be completly wrong.
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