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May 15, 2003, 10:08 |
Can turbuence model predict Relaminarization?
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Hi every one,
Now, I'm interested in relaminalization (turbulent to laminar)phenomena, which is due to strong flow accelalation. Does anyone know the turbulence model , which can predict relaminarization process? Both Rans or LES dynamic model are welcome. Please tell me some paper or information. Best regards, kei-tee |
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May 15, 2003, 11:50 |
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Ideally a LES with an adaptive filter should be able to predict relaminarization but in practice I don't any model can do even an adequate job in all circumstances.
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May 16, 2003, 04:13 |
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Relaminaritation with RANS usually requires some theoretical-empirical correlations. For low pressure gas turbine blades, Abu-Ghannam and Shaw criterium with some other corrections is a standard tool. Some turbulence models (Spalart-Allmaras and Menter) have shown to be promising techniques, but it seems to me that much work is to be done yet.
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May 20, 2003, 02:43 |
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Try B. Perot's turbulent potential model. They have a paper in JOT, you can search it.
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May 28, 2003, 10:16 |
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Low Re models with apropriate damping functions can predict laminarization. One interesting source is:
The prediction of laminarization with a two-equation model of turbulence W.P. Jones and B.E. Launder Int. Journal of Heat and Mass Transfer vol. 15 pp 301-314 1972 This paper, although old, deals with laminarization of a turbulent boundary layer due to strong acceleration. I hope that it helps you. |
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June 3, 2003, 06:58 |
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Hi,
The Jones-Launder TM makes a very questionable job of predicting re-laminarization. I would stick to work by e.g. Menter. I atended a conference last year ETMM5 in Mallorca, where Menter presented his latest findings, which sounded promising. |
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