CFD Online Discussion Forums

CFD Online Discussion Forums (https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/)
-   Main CFD Forum (https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/main/)
-   -   Flame strain-rate (https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/main/8694-flame-strain-rate.html)

flamingo February 14, 2005 12:44

Flame strain-rate
 
i know that the local rate of strain (a) effects the flame characteristics, i.e. extinction etc.

but which direction of strain (e.g. S11, S22, S33, S12, S13, S23) in an LES or DNS simualation actually has the effect. is it the magnitude of all strain directions or one in particular?!?!?

basically i think i want to know the relationship between 'a' and 'Sij'.

thank you.


Tom February 15, 2005 02:38

Re: Flame strain-rate
 
Hi,

The strain-rate direction which is alinged with the scalar gradient affects the flame. Basically, turbulent strain steepens the scalar gradient (and increases heat transfer) if this strain component is negative, but it can also decrease heat transfer if it is positive.More details can be found in papers by Pumir (Phys. Fluids 1996) and Brethouwer et al. (JFM, vol. 474) I believe.

Tom

Bob. February 15, 2005 05:09

Re: Flame strain-rate
 
Hello,

How can turbulent strain increase the scalar (what is the scalar in this case?) gradient in a premixed flow? Also, why is it that large strain rate can delay burning of a flame in a shear layer for example and therefore help in the formation of a Kelvin Helmholtz instability? In essence, why does burning suppress the formation of a Kelvin Helmholtz instability?

Also, can anyone explain the darius-landau instability and where it is seen.

Thank you all.

Tom February 15, 2005 09:16

Re: Flame strain-rate
 
Hi,

In case of premixed combustion strain can increase the temperature gradient and therefore increase heat transfer. A large strain rate can thus cool down a flame and eventually quench it.

Tom

Bob. February 15, 2005 09:33

Re: Flame strain-rate
 
If, as is seen in reaction progess variable codes, the temperature is a function of the local reaction progress variable, are you saying that the fluid strain will increase the reaction progress variable gradient between burnt and unburnt gas? Surely it would have the effect of broadening the zone between C=0 and C=1 and therefore lower the gradient? I understand that an increase in gradient of temperature will increase heat removal form the flame zone, but I don't see how strain rate will increase the gradient of the reaction progress variable. It seems a sort of catch 22 situation.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 17:37.