CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Grid Generation

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   June 17, 2005, 13:30
Default Grid Generation
  #1
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Dear colleagues.

I am writing code for non-orthogonal grid generation, but I need more information/ I have "Numerical Grid Generation Foudation and application" by Joe F.Thomson and Z.U.A. Warsi but it's not sufficient. Also I looked very carefully through Internet via Google, MSN and Yahoo but found nothing usefull. If anybody can send link or give good advice I'll be very grateful. Main difficulty - discretization of Poisson/Laplas equation and its solution.

Waiting for your help, thanks in advance.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 17, 2005, 16:09
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #2
Harish
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Check the sister website of cfd-online on meshing papers will help.

-Harish
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 17, 2005, 16:29
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #3
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thank you, I already done that, I collected all literature with free access from Internet, found something, but anyway if anyone have good links or articles in .pdf or .ps please help

  Reply With Quote

Old   June 17, 2005, 16:40
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #4
andy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thompsons book is online here:

http://www.erc.msstate.edu/publications/gridbook/

It contains all you should need in order to write your grid generator. In fact, if you want to cheat you can simply copy the code in the appendices.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 17, 2005, 17:06
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #5
Márcio Ricardo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Are you having problems in understanding the math formulation or in writing the solvers for the Laplace/Poisson equations?
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 18, 2005, 09:49
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #6
harry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Maybe you will be interested in this code http://www.na.chalmers.se/~andersp/c.../chalmesh.html
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 18, 2005, 14:12
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #7
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thank you for question, that it is, main difficulties with discretization, derivation of discrete analog of Laplace/Poisson equation and its numerical implementation

I found something but it's still not enough.

If you can help, I'll be very grateful
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 18, 2005, 14:28
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #8
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thank You for your help,

but it's not exactly what I would like to have, besides the description of the algorithm is in "Hole-cutting for Three-Dimensional Overlapping Grids", SIAM J. Sci. Comput. v. 21, pp. 646-665 (1999) [abstract and paper].

I'm out of money to pay for article, and I only want to solve Poisson/Laplace equation and that is all for beginning.

I just build code for solving general transport equation (convection-diffusion) in non-orthogonal curvlinear coordinates and would like to experement with different grids, which are built by myself, that's all, so I need only plain procedure for generating grids, but not professional tools.

Anyway many thanks for Your help.

Also I would like to announce here, that if someone want to have code that I'll write soon, I can send. I use FORTRAN 90
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 20, 2005, 02:59
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #9
Rob
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi,

although it is now widely assumed that scientific information can be found via Google&Co, the truth is that such information can not be found via Google&co. It is bad news, as the internet would offer free access to scientific information in principle. But the really interesting stuff is hidden in difficult-to-find journals. To find something here, one would use commercial databases like Inspec, which has the abstracts also, or author/title based services.

To type your scientific question only into Google is like asking at Mc Donalds about french red wine to your hamburger.

regards
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 20, 2005, 03:45
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #10
andy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
In this particular case you are incorrect even though your statement is perhaps more often right than wrong. The standard reference for this subject is the work of Thompson and his group. His book is available on online - see my earlier post.

The situation is slightly unusual but the subject of structured curvilinear grid generation is relatively straightforward and was thoroughly studied in the 70s and 80s. Little of substance has been added in more recent times.

  Reply With Quote

Old   June 20, 2005, 04:04
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #11
Nil
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
This may not concern the subject directly, however, I have seen a small brochure by Bessonov and Koleshko (in Russian) dealing with non-orthogonal grids for two-dimentional problems. It is not presented in the Inet indeed.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 20, 2005, 06:05
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #12
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Dear Friends, thank You very much for Your help, support and criticism (andy);-)

I found all I was looking for.

I have some idea.

I live in small town in Lithuania, far from libraries and I haven't money to pay for articles, all literature I've got via Internet, I have HP LaserJet 1100 and modem.

Two years ago I've got an invitation to participate in International Masters' Program in Turbulence at Chalmers University. But an year ago I had nervous breakdow, more than year was in hospital and became an invalid and partially disabled person. So I lost such splendid opportunity, besides I have to be with my ill mom. So I work here at home.

Idea. To open at CFD-online special topic with free access CFD courses, they could be useful for first year students like me. I listed below what I found. I just after hospital and begin to work again. Main goal : to write something like CALC-PVM, only by myself.

1) Partial Differential Equations by W. E. Schiesser, very good http://www.lehigh.edu/~wes1/apci/28apr00.pdf

2) Computational Fluid Dynamics in Hydraulic and Sedimentation Engineering by Nils Reidar B. Olsen http://www.bygg.ntnu.no/~nilsol/

3) Turbulent Thermal – Fluid Dynamics by Dr. Djamel Lakehal, ETH http://www.lkt.mavt.ethz.ch/~lakehal/

4) Turbulence 5C1218 by KTH 5) Applied Computational Fluid Dynamics 5C1213 by KTH http://www.mech.kth.se/new/list_courses.asp

6) Applied Computational Fluid Dynamics ME 448/548 by Gerald Recktenwald http://www.me.pdx.edu/~gerry/class/ME448/

7) Fire Modeling CIVE 5802 by George Hadjisophocleous http://http-server.carleton.ca/~ghadjiso/index.html

8) ME 608 Numerical Methods in Heat, Mass and Momentum Transfer by Jayathi Y. Murthy can't locate but have, if someone interested in, can send

9) Numerical Computing with MATHLAB by Cleve Moler http://www.mathworks.com/moler/

10) CVEN 302-503 Computer Applications in Engineering and Construction by Hamn-Ching Chen

11) CVEN 680-600 Advanced Computation Methods for Fluid Flow by Hamn-Ching Chen

12) CVEN 688-600 Computational Fluid Dynamics by Hamn-Ching Chen http://ceprofs.tamu.edu/hchen/

13) MAE672-1 Computational Fluid Dynamics by University of Virginia https://toolkit.itc.virginia.edu/cgi...ring_MAE672-1/

14) Engineering Computation and Simulation, EE317 by Dr Xiaojun Wang http://www.eeng.dcu.ie/~wangx/

15) courses by David D. Apsley (Dr) all are very good http://personalpages.umist.ac.uk/staff/david.d.apsley/

16) courses by Division of Thermo and Fluid Dynamics at the Department of Mechanical Engineering, Chalmers University of Technology in Göteborg http://www.tfd.chalmers.se/

Also I found good links to non-orthogonality and grid generation, some good articles and theses.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 20, 2005, 09:20
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #13
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Some other idea:

it's time to open free CFD eletronic library.

But if you have patience you have chance to foung something useful, just patience.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 21, 2005, 03:12
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #14
Rob
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
When it comes to structured grid generation, have you had a look at Megacads?
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 21, 2005, 12:52
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #15
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thanks, but if it won't be too difficult for you, please, send me a link.

I looked in Google and find:

http://www.megacad.ch/Seite1.htm

If it's that, then it doesn't suit, because I need code, preferably in FORTRAN
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 22, 2005, 03:33
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #16
Rob
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
http://www.megacads.dlr.de/
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 22, 2005, 03:51
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #17
A.S.
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi,

Are you able to download Megacads. I tried with the ftp link (ftp.dlr.de, but there is not megacads folder.

If you are able to download it please tell mt how to do it.

Thanks

A.S.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 24, 2005, 07:55
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #18
Rob
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
They will send you a username and password for the FTP server if you fill in the questionaire.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 30, 2005, 02:09
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #19
Rami
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Good luck and best wishes for your courageous effort!
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 30, 2005, 02:41
Default Re: Grid Generation
  #20
Michail
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thank You.

I already discovered bugs in Joe Thomson's book codes.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
need help for generation grid aya FLUENT 11 March 4, 2008 14:46
3D Hyperbolic Grid Generation - Help Requested... Marcus Lobbia Main CFD Forum 2 November 9, 2003 05:53
Help Re. Grid Generation Patel Amit R. FLUENT 1 February 28, 2003 21:27
Combustion Convergence problems Art Stretton Phoenics 5 April 2, 2002 05:59
Latest news in mesh generation Robert Schneiders Main CFD Forum 0 March 2, 1999 04:07


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 19:53.