I am a journalist nad have been asked to write a summary of a European project in the field of CFD (CFD and ship building). It's taken a little bit of research just to find out what CFD stands for! as you all seem to think it's obvious and only use the abbreviation .... but I am still feeling a bit vague about how to describe it in terms immediately understandable to a lay person. Could someone provide me with a good description and examples of applications? Thanks.

http://www.cfd-online.com/Links/onli...html#cfdintros

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Google "CFD"

LOL

A "journalist" who writes articles on subject matters he has no clue about... googling to survey a ocean of foul and useless information on the search for expertise... ???

Ouch!! What ever happened to real journalism? All FOXed out?

CFD is the art of using a computer to simulate how gases and liquids flow. For more info check the links at the address Simon gave.

For CFD related EU projects dealing with ship building you might also want to look at:

https://pronet.wsatkins.co.uk/marnet/

Ouch, cruel. The point is that cathh came to this forum to get pointers to an introduction to CFD, self educating to the extent where an informed piece might be written.

CHAM's intro to CFD is good imo.

i think you missed the point, this journalist has not written anything till (when he has no clue), and he has asked for 'clues' to the people who has the knowledge so that he can write appropiately. This is close to the real journalism that at least i know of. Journalists have to write about myriad of subjects that becoming expert on all of them is not possible and not required. A journalist, is voice of other people, not voice of himself.

No, I didn't miss the point, but maybe my own point didn't really come across. Of course, I am not questioning an honest effort to gather information. I am just shivering to see that people rely more and more on the web when it comes to looking for expert information. To suggest google to find expertise is like sending her to the trash dump to look for a lost diamond, when she has never seen a diamond in her life. Someone who knows so little about CFD that even the acronym means nothing to her is ill-advised to venture into a dump of unreviewed info in order to sort out what's accurate and what's not. A number of phone calls to companies who actually use CFD for ship design, i.e. getting in touch with the community that she'll actually write about, would be somewhat preferrable to stirring aimlessly around in google or fora like this one, where she'll never know who she's actually anonymously talking to. There are a lot of things a journalist can do to build up at least a certain minimum of knowledge before jumping to the internet. That's my non-expert opinion.

Yes, my outburst seems hurtful (I apologize to the journalist), but it just reminded me of what I (and many others) see as a continuous decline in quality journalism. Just look at the daily news. How often do you see that something they report on TV and in newpapers is simply a bad copy of something somebody else had scribbled down on the yahoo news page two days before? Almost every day, and increasingly so (at least in the US). I suppose the advantage of putting unreviewed and unverified news on the net is the speed at which such news will be available to a broad audience (blogs being the ultimate gossip machines). That speed puts a pressure on journalism, leaving no room for quality, transcending news to gossips, and that's not a good trend,... again, in my non-expert opinion.

Good points well argued Mani!

Well i also feel the same way mostly. The funniest piece came just during or after the iraq war, when it was revealed that the claims made to make the arugument for war came from a student's old paper but not from real intellegence. So what you are saying is prevalent in almost all the areas, not only journalism.

Ok, this is really going far off topic and doesn't really belong in this forum, but you just touched another important issue. Inaccuracy due to lack of diligence (or incompetence) is one thing. Deliberate, intentional misinformation for political advantage is on a different level... Unfortunately, they are often hard to distinguish, because a lier can always claim to simply have been mistaken... Deceipt is a form of political art that seems to work very well with a public that has been trained to believe that critical thinking (or thinking at all) is unpatriotic.

This is not much far from topic, googling for say for home work, to project assignments, to office work, to journalism, has become our habit for easy knowledge. But that event of student paper was a big embarracement event for british goverment.

> Deceipt is a form of political art that seems to work very >well with a public that has been trained to believe that
: critical thinking (or thinking at all) is unpatriotic.

well not all the people live in america

Sounds good

of course it's non CFD related topic, but it seems to me that we all have the same problems everywhere

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You are a typical journalist. Most don't know what they are talking about.

In the conext of the previous discussion:

Capacity For Disinformation

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