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March 18, 2018, 01:45 |
Trees
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Johnny
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Hello. I am new to OpenFoam. I would like to create simulation of wind affected by trees and a house. I know how to create the house, but if I want to add some trees near it or a small forest adjacent to the house, how to do it. The problem is that if I create a mesh of tree, the wind would behave like the tree is solid obstacle - but in real, there is a lot of spaces. To create a real tree would take too much resources for calculation. Any tips how to solve that problem? Is there some simple solution?
PS: dynamic meshing is not needed PS2: I Found this https://www.researchgate.net/publica...in_urban_parks which shows the case which is not ideal because the trees seems to be simple blocks/obstacles. Last edited by barracuda; March 18, 2018 at 08:57. |
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March 19, 2018, 03:57 |
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Robert
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How about implementing the trees as a region of lower porosity?
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March 19, 2018, 05:53 |
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Johnny
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I have no experience how to do that. Yesterday I worked with some Sketchup models of trees. I found some trees with simple polygons geometry, which I exported to gmsh. There I have created the mesh.
I could try both. I could try simulation with the trees and then to try the region with smaller poresity and to compare both results. |
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March 19, 2018, 05:57 |
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Robert
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The page explains how to use different fvOptions entries, e.g. the explicitPorositySource. Unfortunately it is partly in japanese, but you can use google translate and the important part is in english.
Source: http://www.geocities.jp/penguinitis2...fvOptions.html |
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March 19, 2018, 09:46 |
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Johnny
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I have modified and exported these trees, to .geo and mesh files. Anyone interested - free for use.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/aut...h.zip/download You can check it out if you know how to make it better (clear, simple, less edges), your help is welcome. I tried to make them as simple as possible, but with tree 3, there are some soft/dashed lines, which could be removed but IDK how to do that. Last edited by barracuda; March 19, 2018 at 13:49. |
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March 20, 2018, 17:16 |
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Johnny
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Could you pleas suggest me which case to use, when I want to simulate the wind in 3D space effecting the trees and house? Till now I was met with the tutorials and cases which use 2D space and pipe or walls where you define the inlet, outlet, etc. However it is not clear to me how can I define the 2D environment which is open ("outdoor"; not closed). So for example when I want the wind to blow from east to west, how should I define the direction. Of sure, I can be interested in 2D solution too, but my final goal is to see the 3D results. Now I am trying to make to work pitzdaily case according "OpenFoam CFD Tutorial | Laminar Flow Through a Pipe 3D | Part 2/4" (Vijaya Kumar), this one is 3D but this is the "enclosed" environment, where the inlet and output is defined.
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March 22, 2018, 02:04 |
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March 24, 2018, 03:02 |
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Johnny
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Thank you for your answer.
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March 27, 2019, 04:23 |
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Ruggiero Guida
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I wonder if this could help
https://github.com/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM...35e58e842cb681 "atmosphericModels: Added Lopes da Costa porosity and turbulence models Specialized variants of the power law porosity and k epsilon turbulence models developed to simulate atmospheric flow over forested and non-forested complex terrain." It is a new feature in openfoam 6. I have not tested it myself yet, but planning to do it soon. https://openfoam.org/release/6/ |
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March 27, 2019, 06:54 |
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Johnny
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Thank you for your reply but I do not do the things which I did at that time, so I am not a developer in this branch anymore.
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August 12, 2019, 04:22 |
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Shai Aser
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Hi,
@Rojj did you ever get around to trying this package? do you know of any existing tutorials for use of the porosity model? thanks, |
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