Hi Philip,
I have been trying to re-write valueFraction for each face of my patch as symm(n*n). I have a very basic doubt. Is it better to write a new BC (derived from directionMixed (maybe?)) where this definition of valueFraction is changed as symm(n*n) while looping over all faces of the patch? If yes, where do I make the changes? In the 'updateCoeffs' section? Thanks. |
Hi,
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- a zero gradient for the normal component of the displacementThe newDirectionMixed looked like the perfect solution. However, when I ran it with my solver, I got the following error: Code:
--> FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: Code:
gradientInternalCoeffs cannot be called for a genericFvPatchField (actual type newDirectionMixed) Code:
symr Thanks, |
Hi Sliwa,
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To achieve what you want, use directionMixed like this: Code:
myPatch You can see that to fix the value in the normal direction valueFraction = sqr(n), whereas to fix the value in the tangential directions valueFraction = I - sqr(n). Best regards, Philip |
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yes you should derive a new boundary condition from directionMixed and set the valueFraction in the constructor or, if the mesh is moving/changing, in updateCoeffs. See for example, fixedDisplacementZeroShear in $FOAM_SRC/solidModels.fvPatchVectorFields in foam extend. Best regards, Philip |
Thank you, Philip! That worked.
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Hi Dear Foamers
I'm trying to use no-stress wall boundary condition and I used: Code:
type directionMixed; I would appreciate if anyone could help me |
any answer guys ? :(
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Thanks a lot Philip
It was very Helpful |
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Interesting explanation for the changing the refGradient in the directionMixed BC. If we include this code in the data can we give any values in directionMixed condition in the 0/U file? Is it possible to set a nonuniform value for the valuefraction in a similar manner using tensor fields. Thank you. Saurabh |
Hi Philip
Just another doubt. Can we use funkySetFields with directionMixed BC. I am getting an error when I try to do that. This is the error: --> FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: "ill defined primitiveEntry starting at keyword 'valueFraction' on line 29 and ending at line 41" Thank you. |
Yes you can code with C++ many great thing in OF
Yes Saurabh you can do this,
If you want to this you want to define a summetric tensor field as a variable initialize it corectly with all the constructors and add it to the maping function if you want to be able to use it in parallèle. You can always look at boundary condition source code to give you great exemple, ther is plenty of them. But valueFraction is alrethy a symmTensorField !?? I'm not shure what is your objectif in creating your new dirrectionMixed boundary condition. I dont konw about funkysetfield I did not use it yet. Out of curiosity why do you want to do this ? What are you tring to accomplish ? Not shur what you mean by including the code in the data ? Hope this was usfull |
[QUOTE=ubald;576267]Yes Saurabh you can do this,
If you want to this you want to define a summetric tensor field as a variable initialize it corectly with all the constructors and add it to the maping function if you want to be able to use it in parallèle. You can always look at boundary condition source code to give you great exemple, ther is plenty of them. But valueFraction is alrethy a symmTensorField !?? I'm not shure what is your objectif in creating your new dirrectionMixed boundary condition. I dont konw about funkysetfield I did not use it yet. Out of curiosity why do you want to do this ? What are you tring to accomplish ? Not shur what you mean by including the code in the data ? Hi Nicolas Thank you for replying so quickly. I will take a look the deifnition of the codes and see if I can compile my own BC. I am trying to use openFoam for magnetic decay simulations and my BC doesnot have a symm tensor in value fraction. Please peruse my post: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...groovy-bc.html This might give you more context to what I am trying to do. Thanks again for the help. |
directionMixed for fluid-fluid interface
Hello,
I am trying to use the conjugate heat transfer solver to compute phase change at a liquid-vapor interface. I have implemented the phase change models into the solver with just a normal velocity at the interface for the phase change. However, I have vapor flow over the interface which would create a viscous shear on the surface of the liquid. The boundary condition for the problem is essentially equal tangential velocities on either side of the interface and equal tangential shear stresses. Added to this is the fixed value in the normal direction. I was thinking that this would be possible to be implemented using the directionMixed boundary condition. However I am not sure how the value fraction would look for such a scenario. Is it possible to use directionMixed for such a BC? I am hoping someone with some experience would be able to direct me in the right direction. As far as I know there does not seem to be any similar boundary conditions in OF. Thanks so much for your time Praveen |
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I don't know i'm in right thread or not by the way I want to solve https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/vb...66b8683d-1.gif equation and obtain B that is defined like https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/vb...5f9738e5-1.gif. I've implemented the equation in my base solver. Now i want to test functionality of the new solver but i have some boundary condition problem before testing. For example if i want to get https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/vb...7e82e530-1.gif in boundaries i need to set https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/vb...0bda500a-1.gif and https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/vb...1fd15156-1.gif. Can i use directionMixed BC for this? How can i implement this BCs? Thanks in advance, Behzad |
I think it is better to start a new tread
Hi Behzad,
OpenFOAM is 3D by défaut 1D and 2D case are achieve by setting special BC. The equations you share seem to be 2D. You need first to specify your equations in 3D then figure ought what type of BC you need. Fixed, gradient, mixed !! Then you'll know what to look for. It seems to me that you should start a new thread. Wright the hole set of equations for your problem with detail on the boundary condition you want to use. Or a link in an article relevant to your case. It is better to use vector notation then component details as OF use vector and tensor notation. Add me on your new tread please as it seems interesting. NLC |
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Thanks for kind reply. as you mentioned OF operates in 3D my case is 2D and I'll set front and back plane as empty and that's not the problem. I showed component details for clarifying the variable relations and boundary conditions. any way I'll open new thread and add you there. Kind regards, Behzad |
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This is the link of new thread. https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/op...tml#post671506 |
spatially varying mixed boundary condition
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Hello,
I have a doubt regarding mixed boundary condition. The available mixedFvPatchField I have to specify fixed Value and a normal gradient. I want to apply a mixed BC to a wall to simulate mass diffusion across it. Thus boundary condition to vary along the wall for varying mass fraction gradients and mass fraction values in cells neighboring the wall. Is there a boundary condition that provides this facility? I have attached the boundary condition equation below where Cmucus is the mass concentration which undergoes convection-diffusion and the coefficients of Cmucus are constants. Attachment 67717 Thank you |
Hello Everyone
I am unable to understand the mixed boundary condition clearly. I have a vertical wall and I want to set the x-component of velocity to be u = 0 and y-component of velocity to be set as dv/dx = 0. In order to achieve this, I have implemented the following sideWall { type directionMixed; refValue uniform (0 0 0); refGradient uniform (0 0 0); valueFraction uniform (0 0 0 0 0 1); } but, when I plot I see non-zero values for the x-component. Kindly, please help me. With Thanks & Regards, Pavithra. |
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To set the normal component to fixedValue and the two tangential components to fixedGradient, the valueFraction should be: Code:
valueFraction = n*n Alternatively (your case), to set the normal component to fixedGradient and the two tangential components to fixedValue, the valueFraction should be: Code:
valueFraction = I - n*n Code:
valueFraction uniform (1 0 0 0 0 1); |
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Respected Sir, Thank you so much for your kind reply and the detailed explanation. In my case, I have a vertical wall. So, v and w are my tangential components and u is my normal component. I wan to set dv/dx =0, dw/dx = 0 and u = 0. i.e. I want to set fixed gradient for my tangential components and fixed value for my normal component. Hence, I feel to set Code:
With Thanks & Regards, Pavithra. |
Hi Pavithra,
It would be helpful if you could give the unit normal of this "vertical wall", as it is unclear what exactly you are referring to. Philip |
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Sir, My wall is in yz-plane and the unit normal vector is (1 0 0) Thank You. |
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This will set Ux to zero and set dUy/dx and dUz/dx to zero. Philip |
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- Pavithra |
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I faced a very similar question, like yours. Have you figured out how to implement the boundary condition below? [/QUOTE] For instance, when = 0.25, it becomes . [/QUOTE] Thanks. Best, Shiyu |
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Thanks. Best, Shiyu[/QUOTE] Hi Shiyu, There is a boundary condition called "groovyBCDirection". Thank You. |
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According to your post ,I want to set a boundary conditon. the pacth is top wall ,I want to set dUz/dz = 5; so n = (0,0,1),then I-n*n = (1 0 0 1 0 0),refrefGradient repressent the dU/dn,so refGradient = (0 0 5) Code:
type directionMixed; |
Hi tomtony,
Yes that's correct, assuming you want Ux and Uy to be zero. By the way, solvers (or paraview) may also want "value" to be define in the boundary condition, which corresponds to the current value on the patch e.g. the initial condition; you could just set this to the same value as refValue if you are not sure. Philip |
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Hi Philip, I know you have answered to multiple questions about directionMixed. Your help was so useful for many about this BC. For me, I tried to figure out the valueFraction tensor I need for my case, but I think asking you is the best option for me. As you see here, I have a normal vector (1 0 0). The difference is that I need to have two fixed value components, one in normal direction and another on one of the tangential directions. Finally, the remaining tangential direction should be fixedGradient. You can see this in the following image: https://i.ibb.co/RCQKd6p/video-image.jpg Code:
type directionMixed; So can you please check the values I considered for my case? How it detects the normal direction? Through valueFraction? Cheers, Mohammad |
Hi Mohammad,
If I understand correctly, then yes your proposed valueFraction is correct. It will use fixedValue in the X and Z directions and fixedGradient in the Y direction. As for "How it detects the normal direction?", I am not sure I understand your question; the normal directions are just taken directly from the mesh geometry. The valueFraction here is independent of the normals and it is up to you to define it appropriately. For example, if the normals were non-uniform on the patch then you may need to define the valueFraction field as non-uniform in order to enforce what ever condition you want. Philip |
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OK. Good. So the normal direction comes from patch.nf and not be extracted by valueFraction. Thank you for sharing you valuable information. Cheers, Mohammad |
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I saw you have answered many questions about directionMixed. Based on my understanding of directMixed condition, I set up it for my case. I think you are the right person to ask if my setup is correct or not. Here is my case: Normal vector: (0 1 0) Velocity vector: (Vx, Vy, Vz) I want to set Vx = 0, dVy/dn = 0, and dVz/dn = 0. Below is my setup, do you think it is right? type directionMixed; refValue uniform (0 0 0); refGradient uniform (0 0 0); valueFraction uniform (1 0 0 0 0 0); Thanks for your help!!! |
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After running the model, I suggest you check the boundary conditions are enforced as you expect, e.g. check Vx on the patch, and plot Vy and Vz away from the wall to check the gradient is zero. |
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Thanks so much for your reply! |
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