Moving boundary problem based on calculated data
Dear Foamer's,
I'm working on a problem, where bottom of the channel is dissolving due to some physical mechanism ( surface velocity is proportional to element concentration difference/gradient). I would like to implement the mesh move solver (velocity Laplacian solver) where the "bottom" patch movement is based on a calculated data. Until now, I was able to fix moveMesh utility to work with constant speed on a bottom boundary. The idea is couple moveMesh utility and scalarTransportLaw solver. Somehow to read all inputs from dynamicMeshdict 0/pointMotionU (here the speed at bottom is 0 and the rest of boundary is as needed - fix/slip) and my concentration data (0/c1) solved previously by scalarTransportLaw. In the next step I would like to prescribe new data for pointMotionU on a "bottom" patch, based on calculated data ( vel = a*abs(c1 - c0) ) and to update mesh. I was looking on a code of moveMesh utility, but have no idea how to update new values of pointMotionU to "bottom" patch to be able to update mesh. Any help in this direction will be very appreciated. Thanks + Best, Sandro. |
Hi Sandro,
I am not aware of which solver you are using, but the following in the version 1.6-ext would give you a lot of inspiration on your further work: Code:
OpenFOAM-1.6-ext/applications/solvers/surfaceTracking/freeSurface Code:
OpenFOAM-1.6-ext/applications/solvers/surfaceTracking/freeSurface/freeSurface.C Good luck, Niels |
Just a precision, I think that what you want to do is "deforming a boundary" and now "Moving a boundary" ! It's not the same...
I did something similar for one of my project that I will publish very soon. I didn't use the point velocity but the point displacement (I give the distance vector of the displacement and not the velocity vector). I had some accretion on a wall that needed to be simulate. I made a code that move the nodes of a wall (patchWallID) from a variable distance in the "normal" direction. The distance of displacement is given by my solver (Mimp = impinging mass flux) and the nodes are moved in the normal direction (= average vector of the faces normal vector). I'm sure the code can be improved but at least it works well for OF 2.2. Here is the part of my code that might interest you: Code:
// Get the patch ID where impingement occurs: patch name must be "wall" Edit. I also do an interpolation since the value of my displacement (Mimp) is only given at the face of the wall; I use a linear interpolation to get the value at the nodes. Edit2. I set a variable to define if the simulation is 2D or 3D. Indeed, because I have a lot of iterations, a very small error on the normal Z value can slowly move the wall nodes away from their original plane. I use an external variable to force the Z direction to remain 0. |
Here is my dynamicMeshDict file that is in Constant
Code:
dynamicFvMesh dynamicMotionSolverFvMesh; Code:
FoamFile |
Dear Niels and Frédéric,
thanks for help. If I would run in some problems I'll make a post. I hope to have nice results to post the solution. Thanks again. Best, Sandro. PS. I use OF 2.2.x |
dissolving walls
Dear Foamers
I also have a simulation where I want to move the solid boundaries in response to a reactant flux across the surface. I have just started playing with OpenFOAM and I had been looking for some guidance, in vain up until yesterday. Like Sandro, I had thought to play with the input files and the moveMesh/moveDynamicMesh utilities but I concluded (perhaps incorrectly) that this would not be as simple as it first appeared and that it would be better to move the mesh in the solver. I was investigating the surfaceTracking extensions when I came across this thread (does anyone know why these applications have not been included in the EFI release since this seems to be a missing functionality). When Frederic says moving the mesh is different from deforming the mesh is this the point that "moving" can include topological change where "deforming" cannot? Thanks to Frederic for posting his code - it is really helpful to see the links to the OpenFOAM data structures. I need to study it more but I have a few questions: 1) Is the field Mimp the reactant concentration? That would make sense to me but I was not sure. 2) Was there a reason to interpolate the concentration and normals rather than calculate the displacements of the face points and then interpolate? 3) In regard to turning off the mesh motion; is this because OpenFOAM will otherwise move the mesh in response to the fluid velocity field? Or is there some other reason. I was very pleased to see this thread. This is a long term project for us so I hope we will eventually be able to contribute something. Tony |
Frederic
Can you post the include files needed to make your application run. I have been trying to get my concentration solver to compile with your code in it, but without success. I tracked down primitivePatchInterpolation.H but I am stuck on the PointDisplacement class which does not seem to be listed in the OpenFOAM classes. I was wondering if it was a class you made. Thanks Tony PS - sorry about the duplicate post |
Frederic
I was wondering if you would post the include files needed to make your application run. I have been trying to compile my solver with your code in it to move the mesh, but without success. I tracked down primitivePatchInterpolation.H but I am stuck on the PointDisplacement class, which does not seem to be listed. Is it a class you defined? Thanks Tony |
1) Mimp is a mass flux impinging the wall.
I did a freezing simulation where I had some supercooled droplet impinging a wall. I had a first solver to compute the water droplet trajectories, then I compute the water mass flux impacting the wall (= Mimp) and finally I freeze the water. I had for example 1kg/(m2.s) of water impacting the wall. Then I freeze the water. By knowing the density of the ice (kg/m3) I get a displacement in m/s which is the ice growth rate. Then I multiply by the time step lenght to get the displacement of the point in m. 2) the normal at the node is given by the function "pointNormals", I don't interpolate it. It is already included in OpenFoam. I interpolate the displacement from the face to the node because I compute the impingement at the face center. I don't have other choice. 3) I turn off the mesh motion because some schemes are not compatible with the mesh motion. Indeed, you should consider the motion of the boundary in your momentum equation. However, in my simulation, the displacement was so small at each time step that I could ignore it. In my case, I used the localEuler time scheme that make a test if mesh motion is on. If I leave it on, the scheme will crash... You should actually leave it on, but in some cases you can make the assumption that the motion is so small that it because negligeable. Ps. a "moving boundary" is a boundary that doesn't deform. It only translate or rotate... In this case you can use some technics such as the layer addition and so on. In a "deforming boundary", the boundary can actually change shape. Each node of the boundary can be manipulated independantly. |
I don't have my finaly source code on this computer but I think this can solve your problem:
options files: Code:
EXE_INC = \ Code:
#include "meshTools.H" |
Frederic
Thanks a lot. The code compiles and executes now. I am still debugging but I can see I have the correct fluxes at the boundaries. That was massively helpful. Tony PS Is there a systematic way of figuring out which include files (and library modules) one needs? I was missing many of them. |
Frederic
My channel is dissolving now and producing a reasonable looking shape. There is still quite a bit to do but you got me over a huge hurdle. Again many thanks. Tony |
Unfortunately no... I usually use this website to guess: http://foam.sourceforge.net/docs/cpp...7a38c0d80e0ba7
but often I had to put all the includes from openfoam and then slowly remove the useless one. I also had to struggle during a while to make this code ;) |
That's what I suspected. I guess in time I will learn the major classes and their includes.
I plan to make a dissolution/precipitation solver (i.e. Stokes flow, Steady-State convection diffusion, mesh motion from boundary flux). I have all the bits now thanks to you - I just need to assemble it into a proper program. I will post it when I get done. Tony |
Dear Frederic,
I can't find the meaning of == operator in line PointDisplacement.boundaryField()[patchWallID] == dispVals; I saw it someware but at the moment I can't find it. I have in mid that it does something around interpoaltion/update of the mesh. Thanks + best, Sandro PS. Code is runing great. I'll post a complete example after having clean form. |
It is a C++ trick. It is an overloaded operator that force the dispVals to go in the pointdisplacement
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To make the things clear:
1) PointDisplacement.boundaryField()[patchWallID] == dispVals; it gives the new position to the boundary (only the boundary moves and not the inner domain) 2) mesh.update(); This will update the mesh by solving an equation. The boundaries are fixed and the inner domain is the unknown. The solver will move the domain nodes to match the requirements. Be careful, we often consider that the boundary should not move of more than half of the first cell height. If your motion is of less than 1% of the first cell height, you can start to make the assumption that the mesh motion is negligeable compared to you flow motion. You can then turn off the mesh motion by "mesh.moving(false)" in order to be able to use some advanced schemes that were not coded for dynamic mesh. Edit, you should also be careful while running the code in parallel. I'm not 100% sure it is ok. I have seen some strange behavior if the deforming boundary belong to two CPU domains. The node at the interface doesn't move smoothly. |
Dear Frederic,
thanks for the explanation. I'll test for parallel too and post the results. Besta, ASG |
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And complete example is here. Code for myMoveMesh and test. Test is based on mesh motion due to dissolution at the interface.
Cheers, Sandro. |
Nice contribution ;) Have you tried to run it in parallel ?
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