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Hello everybody,
I have again some problems with the derivation of the displacement equation for solid stress calculation. I might just have some problems with the Lagrange and Eulerian formulation but however, for me it is not clear. In literature I found the conservation equation for the displacement vector ![]() ![]() where ![]() ![]() ![]() My problem is the time derivative that I don't get. If we start from the momentum equation to derive the displacement equation, I get to the Lagrange formulation and therefore to the Total Derivative of the displacement vector. To demonstrate it, here we go: ![]() Neglecting the source ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Now introducing the displacement vector (maybe I miss here something): ![]() ![]() About that step I am not 100% sure ![]() I will check the book Moukalled et al. tomorrow but I am not sure if they talk about stress calculation. It would be nice if someone could highlight my mistakes because if my derivation would be correct, I should change the total derivative into the Eulerian form in order to implement it to FOAM, right? Thanks in advance
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Hi Tobi
Do we not assume that there is no convective transport term because it is a solid? Regards, Brian |
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Hi Brian,
I was thinking about that too but if we do so, we get the following: ![]() Therefore the continuity reduces to: ![]() which induces constant density. If that will hold, everything is fine because we get: ![]() Using the following relation, ![]() ![]() But then we have a constant density. The only thing which will make it density depended is that the continuity is equal to a source term: ![]() However, then we have to keep the not-vanishing term. But I am not sure if that is correct and how to treat S.
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Hi Tobi
Have a look at the derivation in 5.2 of the following notes. Working from Newtons second law of motion applied to the deformation of solids. http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Eng...ation_Laws.htm As to the inclusion of the density term within the time derivative, I cannot say why just yet, unless it is assumed to be constant for the finite volume... Without deriving the NS equation from scratch now, I am guessing some of our assumptions used to find the NS equations may not apply in the derivation for the deformation of solids, hence why you can't find a resolution when starting off with the NS equations and applying to solid deformation. Let me know what you think. Regards, Brian |
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Hi Brian,
well I think I am doing something wrong, or as you said, some assumptions are not correct. Yesterday I already saw the Brown website but to be honest, I do not like the integral forms too much. However, if we would use the first equation: ![]() And start from this equation it is obvious (of course). Neglecting body forces and replace the acceleration with ![]() I also checked out Philip Cardiffs PhD thesis and he is always talking about the Lagrange approach. I feel that I don't know anything :P
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given any field ![]() ![]() holding ![]() ![]() holding ![]() The material time-derivative in spatial (Eulerian) description ![]() Also, there are conservative and non-conservative forms of balance laws. Conservative form ![]() and non-conservative form (assuming the balance of mass holds) ![]() The non-conservative form is especially useful for solids, because we can show that balance of mass is automatically satisfied. The conservative form is severally used in finite volume method (from the nature of the method, ie, fluxes). |
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Dear Elones,
thanks for your reply. Due to the fact we use FOAM and FVM, and I expect that we have to write the equations in conservative form, I don´t get the point why we directly can write the non-conservative form. If your equations will highlight and solve my issue, I don´t get the point because I still have the problem shown above.
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To Dipsomaniac: We do not assume that there is no convective transport term because it is a solid. It comes from mathematical description, in Lagrange (Referential, or Material) formulation there is not convection term, material time-derivative in this formulation is time partial derivative.
To Tobi: ![]() is simply wrong. This is actually little bit complicated and I don't know where to begin. I will try to put this as simple as possible. It "should be" ![]() but the trajectory ("displacement") is function of referential coordinates ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The balance equations in spatial (Eulerian) description (eg fluid mechanics) are the balance of mass conservative ![]() or non-conservative ![]() the balance of linear momentum conservative ![]() or non-conservative ![]() angular moment balance ![]() and energy balance non-conservative ![]() Here, v is the velocity field, rho is the density, T is the Cauchy stress, b is the conventional body force, varepsilon is the specific internal energy, bold q is the heat flux, q is the heat supply and D is the symm grad v and div( . ) = \partial . / \partial x. The correct balance equations in referential (Lagrangian) description are the balance of mass ![]() where rho_R is density in referential configuration (say undeformed body) and J is the Jacobian of the deformation; the balance of linear momentum ![]() the balance of energy ![]() where ![]() is the Piola stress and F the deformation gradient ![]() and Div( . ) = \partial . / \partial X. The heat referential flux bold q_R is ![]() and b_R = J b, q_R = J q. And for small deformation ![]() so that ![]() |
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