is internalField(U) equivalent to zeroGradient?

immortality · March 6, 2013, 17:09

when I set BC for U to zeroGradient or:

Code:

right
    {
     type groovyBC;
     fractionExpression "0";
     gradientExpression "vector(0,0,0)";
    }

it answers without any error
but when I set it to:

Code:

right
    {
     type groovyBC;
     fractionExpression "1";
     valueExpression "internalField(U)";//vector(internalField(U).x,0,0)
    }

it falls to an error on T(energy equation probably) as so:

Code:

From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -3333091.721
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 4080511.561
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -7124696.499
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 5774453.414
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -6575768.989
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 5981361.409
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 1404258.482
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -17090209.16
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 36020792.5
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -94818398.64
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 40233402.34
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -106376680.8
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 37389446.51
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -76115211.3
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -24650104.63
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -26951665.22
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 471535.4463
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 465677.0027
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 277204.4414
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -145721.0621
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 15779.92442
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 112883.4828
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -3083.273126
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 43.52495911
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 4976486.257
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 3178348.937
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -32897237.32
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -44825686.95
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -22612.51171
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -1870.615087
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 9690.272357
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -39521.73991
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 93265.31041
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -340838.0148
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 610015.5259
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -1813983.217
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 2650248.864
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -6558287.943

I thought that internalField(U) or vector(internalField(U).x,0,0) do the same way as zeroGradient(or in groovyBC gradientExpression"0" does).
why?

immortality · March 6, 2013, 17:15

is it possible to have the help of Mr.Gschaider if he doesn't have sulked?

immortality · March 7, 2013, 06:09

why they don't act the same way?

immortality · March 8, 2013, 03:47

does anyone have any experience or knowledge about this issue?

immortality · March 8, 2013, 09:30

dear Bernard whats your advice about it?
Its important to know your opinion because of your expertise on groovyBC.
Thank you for your and others comments.

immortality · March 10, 2013, 05:36

the question persists if anyone has an idea it will be thanked.

immortality · March 15, 2013, 04:22

is the question so much hard?
I only want to know the cause.why internalField and zeroGradient act differently in test although they seem should be the same?

immortality · March 29, 2013, 01:27

no any answer?

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March 6, 2013, 17:15		#2
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	is it possible to have the help of Mr.Gschaider if he doesn't have sulked?

March 7, 2013, 06:09		#3
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	why they don't act the same way?

March 8, 2013, 03:47		#4
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	does anyone have any experience or knowledge about this issue?

March 8, 2013, 09:30		#5
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	dear Bernard whats your advice about it? Its important to know your opinion because of your expertise on groovyBC. Thank you for your and others comments.

March 10, 2013, 05:36		#6
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	the question persists if anyone has an idea it will be thanked.

March 15, 2013, 04:22		#7
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	is the question so much hard? I only want to know the cause.why internalField and zeroGradient act differently in test although they seem should be the same?

March 29, 2013, 01:27		#8
immortality Senior Member Ehsan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iran Posts: 2,208 Rep Power: 26	no any answer?