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immortality March 6, 2013 18:09

is internalField(U) equivalent to zeroGradient?
 
when I set BC for U to zeroGradient or:
Code:

right
    {
    type groovyBC;
    fractionExpression "0";
    gradientExpression "vector(0,0,0)";
    }

it answers without any error
but when I set it to:
Code:

right
    {
    type groovyBC;
    fractionExpression "1";
    valueExpression "internalField(U)";//vector(internalField(U).x,0,0)
    }

it falls to an error on T(energy equation probably) as so:
Code:

From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -3333091.721
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 4080511.561
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -7124696.499
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 5774453.414
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -6575768.989
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 5981361.409
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 1404258.482
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -17090209.16
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 36020792.5
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -94818398.64
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 40233402.34
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -106376680.8
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 37389446.51
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -76115211.3
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -24650104.63
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -26951665.22
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 471535.4463
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 465677.0027
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 277204.4414
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -145721.0621
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 15779.92442
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 112883.4828
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -3083.273126
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 43.52495911
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 4976486.257
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 3178348.937
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -32897237.32
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -44825686.95
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -22612.51171
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -1870.615087
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 9690.272357
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -39521.73991
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 93265.31041
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -340838.0148
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 610015.5259
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -1813983.217
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = 2650248.864
--> FOAM Warning :
From function janafThermo<EquationOfState>::limit(const scalar T) const
in file /home/opencfd/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.1.1/src/thermophysicalModels/specie/lnInclude/janafThermoI.H at line 108
attempt to use janafThermo<EquationOfState> out of temperature range 200 -> 6000;  T = -6558287.943

I thought that internalField(U) or vector(internalField(U).x,0,0) do the same way as zeroGradient(or in groovyBC gradientExpression"0" does).
why?

immortality March 6, 2013 18:15

is it possible to have the help of Mr.Gschaider if he doesn't have sulked?:D

immortality March 7, 2013 07:09

why they don't act the same way?

immortality March 8, 2013 04:47

does anyone have any experience or knowledge about this issue?

immortality March 8, 2013 10:30

dear Bernard whats your advice about it?
Its important to know your opinion because of your expertise on groovyBC.
Thank you for your and others comments.

immortality March 10, 2013 06:36

the question persists if anyone has an idea it will be thanked.

immortality March 15, 2013 05:22

is the question so much hard?
I only want to know the cause.why internalField and zeroGradient act differently in test although they seem should be the same?

immortality March 29, 2013 02:27

no any answer?


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