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Old   August 21, 2013, 05:17
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Hi all,

I am running a 1 degree angle wedge case using sprayFoam (OF-2.2.x) for diesel spray simulation. The injector is placed along the axis-symmetrical line.

When I extract the Liquid Penetration Length (LPL), the LPL is found to be fluctuating. Refer to the attachments. However, vapour penetration length (VPL) does not face this problem.

When LPL is extracted using dieselFoam (OF-2.0.x), the fluctuation did not happen. So, I am suspecting it is a coding problem in sprayFoam 2.2.x. I am still new to OpenFOAM thus solving this code problem would be a tough challenge for me.

Any help with this is greatly appreciated!


Attached is the sprayCloudProperties and blockMeshDict if needed.

Thanks.


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Old   December 21, 2013, 12:07
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HI,

I have a question that is not relevant to yours.

Do you happen to have any problem with total injected mass? I have been having problems with incorrect injected mass on wedge cases.

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Hi..

I am new to OF and trying to run a 5 degree angle wedge case using sprayFoam
But I get following Error:

BlockMeshDict is attacjed for refernce.

Thanks In Advance:

Error is::
Code:
Solving cloud sprayCloud
Cloud: sprayCloud
    Current number of parcels       = 6
    Current mass in system          = 7.94663e-10  /** Expected Mass is 8.33e-8 kg for 5 deg.**//
    Linear momentum                 = (-2.3317e+09 0 2.94384e+09) 
   |Linear momentum|                = 3.7554e+09
    Linear kinetic energy           = 3.06861e+28
    Rotational kinetic energy       = 0
    model1:
        number of parcels added     = 6
        mass introduced             = 7.95718e-10
    Parcels absorbed into film      = 0
    New film detached parcels       = 0
    Parcel fate (number, mass)
      - escape                      = 0, 0
      - stick                       = 0, 0
    Temperature min/max             = 320.367, 371.071
    Mass transfer phase change      = 1.055e-12
    D10, D32, Dmax (mu)             = 2.28102e-12, 8.01824e-12, 1089.75
    Liquid penetration 95% mass (m) = 0.000159027

diagonal:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  void Foam::multiply<Foam::Tensor<double> >(Foam::Field<Foam::Tensor<double> >&, Foam::UList<double> const&, Foam::UList<Foam::Tensor<double> > const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#4  Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > Foam::operator*<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>(Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > const&, Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#5  Foam::compressible::RASModels::kEpsilon::divDevRhoReff(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Vector<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>&) const in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libcompressibleRASModels.so"
#6  
 in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/sprayFoam"
#7  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#8  
 in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/sprayFoam"
Floating point exception (core dumped)
aniket@aniket-Inspiron-N5110:~/OpenFOAM/aniket-2.2.1/run/tutorials/lagrangian/sprayFoam/aachenBomb$
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Old   January 29, 2014, 10:08
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HI,

I have a question that is not relevant to yours.

Do you happen to have any problem with total injected mass? I have been having problems with incorrect injected mass on wedge cases.

Regards
RJ
Hi,

Yes. If im not mistaken i was also having a problem with incorrect mass injected.

I have stopped using OF22x and revert to an older version, i.e. OF20x which seems to have less problem for my wedge case. Sorry but I think I might not be much help in OF22x~

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Hi..

I am new to OF and trying to run a 5 degree angle wedge case using sprayFoam
But I get following Error:

BlockMeshDict is attacjed for refernce.

Thanks In Advance:

Error is::
Code:
Solving cloud sprayCloud
Cloud: sprayCloud
    Current number of parcels       = 6
    Current mass in system          = 7.94663e-10  /** Expected Mass is 8.33e-8 kg for 5 deg.**//
    Linear momentum                 = (-2.3317e+09 0 2.94384e+09) 
   |Linear momentum|                = 3.7554e+09
    Linear kinetic energy           = 3.06861e+28
    Rotational kinetic energy       = 0
    model1:
        number of parcels added     = 6
        mass introduced             = 7.95718e-10
    Parcels absorbed into film      = 0
    New film detached parcels       = 0
    Parcel fate (number, mass)
      - escape                      = 0, 0
      - stick                       = 0, 0
    Temperature min/max             = 320.367, 371.071
    Mass transfer phase change      = 1.055e-12
    D10, D32, Dmax (mu)             = 2.28102e-12, 8.01824e-12, 1089.75
    Liquid penetration 95% mass (m) = 0.000159027

diagonal:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  void Foam::multiply<Foam::Tensor<double> >(Foam::Field<Foam::Tensor<double> >&, Foam::UList<double> const&, Foam::UList<Foam::Tensor<double> > const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#4  Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > Foam::operator*<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>(Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > const&, Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#5  Foam::compressible::RASModels::kEpsilon::divDevRhoReff(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Vector<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>&) const in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libcompressibleRASModels.so"
#6  
 in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/sprayFoam"
#7  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#8  
 in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/sprayFoam"
Floating point exception (core dumped)
aniket@aniket-Inspiron-N5110:~/OpenFOAM/aniket-2.2.1/run/tutorials/lagrangian/sprayFoam/aachenBomb$
Hi,

Did you run checkMesh?? Did it show an error? if no, then most likely is not your mesh problem, might be your settings problem~

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Old   January 29, 2014, 18:14
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hi

i got the same error message, I'm running a transient, compressible gas pipe flow simulation, using sonicFoam

i get the following error after 0.01482 sec with a time step of 1e-05, according to checkMesh my mesh is ok, I'm guessing its something to do with the settings, but I'm not sure what exactly

Code:
Time = 0.01483

Courant Number mean: -1.84532e+55 max: 5.6429e+58
diagonal:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  void Foam::multiply<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>&, Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&, Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&) in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libcompressibleTurbulenceModel.so"
#4  Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > Foam::operator*<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>(Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > const&, Foam::tmp<Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Tensor<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> > const&) in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libcompressibleTurbulenceModel.so"
#5  Foam::compressible::RASModels::RNGkEpsilon::divDevRhoReff(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Vector<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>&) const in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libcompressibleRASModels.so"
#6  
 in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/sonicFoam"
#7  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#8  
 in "/opt/openfoam201/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/sonicFoam"
Floating point exception (core dumped)
I would like to know what is causing this error, or where would be a good place to start looking to resolve the issue

any advice would be welcome


David

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Old   January 29, 2014, 19:00
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When you say your injector is on the axis, do you mean directly on the axis? Which direction is it pointing? And how are you extracting the penetration length?
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Hi,

Did you run checkMesh?? Did it show an error? if no, then most likely is not your mesh problem, might be your settings problem~
Hi ahcai007,
First, pardon me for too late reply,,

I ran checkMesh ..and it showed:

(note: here BC used is cyclic)



Code:
Create time
 
 Create polyMesh for time = 0
 
 Time = 0
 
 Mesh stats
     points:           174023
     faces:            510081
     internal faces:   494419
     cells:            168100
     faces per cell:   5.97561
     boundary patches: 6
     point zones:      0
     face zones:       0
     cell zones:       0
 
 Overall number of cells of each type:
     hexahedra:     164000
     prisms:        4100
     wedges:        0
     pyramids:      0
     tet wedges:    0
     tetrahedra:    0
     polyhedra:     0
 
 Checking topology...
     Boundary definition OK.
     Cell to face addressing OK.
     Point usage OK.
     Upper triangular ordering OK.
     Face vertices OK.
     Number of regions: 1 (OK).
 
 Checking patch topology for multiply connected surfaces...
     Patch               Faces    Points   Surface topology                  
     front               4100     4242     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     back                4100     4242     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     tankWall            4100     4242     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     inlet               1681     1723     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     outlet              1681     1723     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     axis                0        0        ok (empty)                        
 
 Checking geometry...
     Overall domain bounding box (0 -0.00349 0) (0.099939 0.00349 1)
     Mesh (non-empty, non-wedge) directions (1 1 1)
     Mesh (non-empty) directions (1 1 1)
     Boundary openness (5.27124e-15 -6.19357e-17 9.43227e-18) OK.
  ***High aspect ratio cells found, Max aspect ratio: 5.98308e+194, number of cells 168100
   <<Writing 168100 cells with high aspect ratio to set highAspectRatioCells
     Minimum face area = 5.06068e-09. Maximum face area = 2.43902e-05.  Face area magnitudes OK.
     Min volume = 1.66667e-300. Max volume = 2e-300.  Total volume = 3.34833e-295.  Cell volumes OK.
 #0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
 #1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
 #2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
 #3  acos in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6"
 #4   Foam::polyMesh::checkFaceOrthogonality(Foam::Field<Foam::Vector<double>  > const&, Foam::Field<Foam::Vector<double> >  const&, bool, bool, Foam::HashSet<int, Foam::Hash<int>  >*) const in  "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
 #5  
  in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/checkMesh"
 #6  
  in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/checkMesh"
 #7  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
 #8  
  in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/checkMesh"
 Floating point exception (core dumped)
What are mistakes in this blockMeshDict....
New blockMesh for cyclic BC is attached here
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Hi ahcai007,
First, pardon me for too late reply,,

I ran checkMesh ..and it showed:

(note: here BC used is cyclic)



Code:
Create time
 
 Create polyMesh for time = 0
 
 Time = 0
 
 Mesh stats
     points:           174023
     faces:            510081
     internal faces:   494419
     cells:            168100
     faces per cell:   5.97561
     boundary patches: 6
     point zones:      0
     face zones:       0
     cell zones:       0
 
 Overall number of cells of each type:
     hexahedra:     164000
     prisms:        4100
     wedges:        0
     pyramids:      0
     tet wedges:    0
     tetrahedra:    0
     polyhedra:     0
 
 Checking topology...
     Boundary definition OK.
     Cell to face addressing OK.
     Point usage OK.
     Upper triangular ordering OK.
     Face vertices OK.
     Number of regions: 1 (OK).
 
 Checking patch topology for multiply connected surfaces...
     Patch               Faces    Points   Surface topology                  
     front               4100     4242     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     back                4100     4242     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     tankWall            4100     4242     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     inlet               1681     1723     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     outlet              1681     1723     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
     axis                0        0        ok (empty)                        
 
 Checking geometry...
     Overall domain bounding box (0 -0.00349 0) (0.099939 0.00349 1)
     Mesh (non-empty, non-wedge) directions (1 1 1)
     Mesh (non-empty) directions (1 1 1)
     Boundary openness (5.27124e-15 -6.19357e-17 9.43227e-18) OK.
  ***High aspect ratio cells found, Max aspect ratio: 5.98308e+194, number of cells 168100
   <<Writing 168100 cells with high aspect ratio to set highAspectRatioCells
     Minimum face area = 5.06068e-09. Maximum face area = 2.43902e-05.  Face area magnitudes OK.
     Min volume = 1.66667e-300. Max volume = 2e-300.  Total volume = 3.34833e-295.  Cell volumes OK.
 #0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
 #1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
 #2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
 #3  acos in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6"
 #4   Foam::polyMesh::checkFaceOrthogonality(Foam::Field<Foam::Vector<double>  > const&, Foam::Field<Foam::Vector<double> >  const&, bool, bool, Foam::HashSet<int, Foam::Hash<int>  >*) const in  "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
 #5  
  in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/checkMesh"
 #6  
  in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/checkMesh"
 #7  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
 #8  
  in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/checkMesh"
 Floating point exception (core dumped)
What are mistakes in this blockMeshDict....
New blockMesh for cyclic BC is attached here

you need to put neighbour patch as front and back instead of axis.

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Hi all,

I am running a 1 degree angle wedge case using sprayFoam (OF-2.2.x) for diesel spray simulation. The injector is placed along the axis-symmetrical line.

When I extract the Liquid Penetration Length (LPL), the LPL is found to be fluctuating. Refer to the attachments. However, vapour penetration length (VPL) does not face this problem.

When LPL is extracted using dieselFoam (OF-2.0.x), the fluctuation did not happen. So, I am suspecting it is a coding problem in sprayFoam 2.2.x. I am still new to OpenFOAM thus solving this code problem would be a tough challenge for me.

Any help with this is greatly appreciated!


Attached is the sprayCloudProperties and blockMeshDict if needed.

Thanks.


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Hi ahcai
my project is exactly similiar to your work and I am running a 1 degree angle wedge case using sprayFoam (OF-2.3.x) for diesel spray simulation. The injector is placed along the axis-symmetrical line.
can you help me how to extract the Liquid Penetration Length (LPL) and vapour penetration length (VPL)?
thanks.
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When I extract the Liquid Penetration Length (LPL), the LPL is found to be fluctuating. Refer to the attachments. However, vapour penetration length (VPL) does not face this problem.
Hi Ah Cai,
I want display the parameteres LPL and VPL in paraview, and then extract the values to plot (without have to write a post-processing function if it's possilbe). Could you explain me how did you get this values?
Thanks.
PD: I'm using sprayFoam in OF v2.3.0

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Hello,

Can anybody please help me in figuring out on how to extract spray length or spray penetration from sprayFoam results. I have simulated the case using foamJob utility to extract log files.

There is a context in log file "Liquid penetration 95% (m)" what does it mean?

I have also used foamVTK to generate VTK output.

Should I load VTK using paraview and extract the parcel data?. I am very confused rigth now.

Can someone please help me to figure out the solution to my problem.

Thanks in advance.
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Hi ahcai
my project is exactly similiar to your work and I am running a 1 degree angle wedge case using sprayFoam (OF-2.3.x) for diesel spray simulation. The injector is placed along the axis-symmetrical line.
can you help me how to extract the Liquid Penetration Length (LPL) and vapour penetration length (VPL)?
thanks.
Hello everybody
I have the same problem, may anyone explain how can I extract Liquid Penetration Length (LPL) and vapour penetration length (VPL)?
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Greetings to all, although I'm coming rather late to look into this.

@omid20110: I finally taken a look at the PM you sent me. In it you mentioned:
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May you take a look at this topic?
As many users have the same problem I think there should be an answer for all of them.
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Which brings me to your question and all of the other questions above:
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I have the same problem, may anyone explain how can I extract Liquid Penetration Length (LPL) and vapour penetration length (VPL)?
So here's the problem: there is no indication of which tutorial case or any other case I can look at to study myself. I'm unfortunately not familiar with this topic.

The best I can do right now is wave my finger at this wiki page: https://openfoamwiki.net/index.php/Contrib_dieselFoam - and ask: Is this the type of case you are running?

Either way, the best would be to let us know which tutorial case can be used as a reference to study it and so that I or anyone else can figure out how to use it.

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Greetings to all, although I'm coming rather late to look into this.

@omid20110: I finally taken a look at the PM you sent me. In it you mentioned:


Which brings me to your question and all of the other questions above:

So here's the problem: there is no indication of which tutorial case or any other case I can look at to study myself. I'm unfortunately not familiar with this topic.

The best I can do right now is wave my finger at this wiki page: https://openfoamwiki.net/index.php/Contrib_dieselFoam - and ask: Is this the type of case you are running?

Either way, the best would be to let us know which tutorial case can be used as a reference to study it and so that I or anyone else can figure out how to use it.

Best regards,
Bruno
Hi Bruno,
Thanks for your reply. what do you mean by this: "...which tutorial case can be used as a reference..."?
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