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Issue with pressure boundary and gravity in DPMFoam |
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Knut Erik T. Giljarhus
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Hello,
I have an issue with running the DPMFoam solver with a vertical outlet boundary. There does not seem to be a suitable boundary condition for the pressure in this case. With gravity on you will get a hydrostatic pressure field in the internal domain, so setting a fixed value of zero becomes wrong. Does anyone know how to fix this in DPMFoam? Other solvers, such as interFoam, seem to fix this by instead solving for p_rgh. I have tried various other approaches, such as setting the outlet pressure to the hydrostatic pressure, but without success. I notice that the tutorial cases for DPMFoam and MPPICFoam either only have horizontal boundaries or have gravity switched off. Thanks, Eric |
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Knut Erik T. Giljarhus
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I have attached two plots illustrating the issue. This is flow through a channel with a constant inlet velocity and without any particle injection.
In the first plot, I have used a fixed value for the pressure at the outlet (right boundary). Here you can clearly see the hydrostatic pressure buildup in the domain. The second picture shows the result when I try to set the pressure to the hydrostatic pressure at the outlet. That doesn't seem to work either. - Eric result_fixed.png result_hydrostatic.png |
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Hello eric and everyone else,
i have the same problem as you. Exchanging air with water in DPMFoam and causes the exact same issue. I tried also many bc at the outlet and got, when the solver ran, a similar phenomena. Did somebody solve the problem, or could tell me how to implement hydrostatic pressure to the DPMFoam solver? |
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So i tried some more bc combinations and extended the 0-folder a bit(pimpleFoam), leading to no change in both alternatives (simple (DPMFoam) and extended (pimpleFoam) 0-folder). I always get a similiar picture as eric (see attachement).
My example is a simple block geometry with 3 particles on the ground. The Inlet is a fixedValue and the Outlet should just let water out as it comes, which it clearly does not, looking at the screenshot. Am i making something wrong with the boundary conditions? My second assumption is that the DPMFoam Solver (pEqn.H especially) is not made for water simulations. Following are my p and U.water codes: p: Code:
/*--------------------------------*- C++ -*----------------------------------*\
| ========= | |
| \\ / F ield | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox |
| \\ / O peration | Version: 4.0 |
| \\ / A nd | Web: www.OpenFOAM.org |
| \\/ M anipulation | |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
FoamFile
{
version 2.0;
format ascii;
class volScalarField;
object p;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //
dimensions [0 2 -2 0 0 0 0];
internalField uniform 0;
boundaryField
{
inlet
{
type fixedFluxPressure;
phi phi.water;
value $internalField;
}
outlet
{
type fixedValue;
value uniform 0;;
//phi phi.water;
//value $internalField;
}
upperWall
{
type zeroGradient;
}
walls
{
type zeroGradient;
/*
type fixedFluxPressure;
phi phi.water;
value $internalField;
*/
}
sides
{
type zeroGradient;
/*
type fixedFluxPressure;
phi phi.water;
value $internalField;
*/
}
}
// ************************************************************************* //
Code:
/*--------------------------------*- C++ -*----------------------------------*\
| ========= | |
| \\ / F ield | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox |
| \\ / O peration | Version: 4.0 |
| \\ / A nd | Web: www.OpenFOAM.org |
| \\/ M anipulation | |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
FoamFile
{
version 2.0;
format ascii;
class volVectorField;
object U;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //
dimensions [0 1 -1 0 0 0 0];
internalField uniform (0 0 0);
boundaryField
{
inlet
{
type fixedValue;
value uniform (0.5 0 0);
//phi phi.water;
//alpha alpha.water;
}
outlet
{
type zeroGradient;
/*
type inletOutlet;
phi phi.water;
inletValue uniform (0 0 0);
value uniform (0 0 0);
*/
}
upperWall
{
type noSlip;
/*
type inletOutlet;
phi phi.water;
inletValue uniform (0 0 0);
value uniform (0 0 0);
*/
}
walls
{
type noSlip;
}
sides
{
type noSlip;
}
}
// ************************************************************************* //
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Viet-Dung NGUYEN
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Hi,
Using DPMFoam to study the scour around a cylinder, I started with a classic model without particles in icoFoam. Everything is ok concerning the mesh, fluid behavior... Then, in DPMFoam, with 1 particle and the same mesh, boundary conditions..., when I set g = 0, the simulation converges well and the results match those of icoFoam. But when g = -9.81, U_z, U_magnitude,Courant Number increase at the outlet and the simulation stops. Did you solve the problem ? |
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Ramin
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same problem
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Join Date: May 2017
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Iīve solved my problem by coupling an Euler-Lagrangian Solver. I did this by adding to the standard pimpleFoam-Solver the lagrangian library.
Since itīs some time I did this hereīs a presentation, where i got the idea with a short but thorough tutorial. https://www.foamacademy.com/wp-conte...les_slides.pdf I hope this helps everyone who got stuck at this exact same point |
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