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May 14, 2021, 07:37 
NonReflective Boundary Conditions are reflective at outflow (rhoCentralFoam)

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Dear All,
I'm running a CFD campaign in OpenFOAM(v7) as part of my master's thesis. Overall I have a relatively fast, mild cell count simulation that can ramp across a range of Mach numbers to characterise the starting/hysteresis that occurs in BusemannBiplane type supersonic airfoils. I'm varying airfoil parameters of spacing and stagger through a MATLAB batch script to build up my design space, and the simulation itself ramps through speeds and logs force coefficients. So far sims have been going well (see image1, simulations from within a circular domain, varying AoA), however recently I've tried to simulate some lower Mach numbers (starting Ma 1.2)  where a large bowshock is formed which is able to reach the outflow in a subsonic state. This has lead to frustrations with boundary conditions that are not meant to be reflective i.e. zeroGradient & waveTransmissive acting as if they were walls too (see image 2,2a). I've also thought of improving the mesh to a DMesh, but the introduction of two more outflows which are acting as walls has not helped (see image3). OpenFOAM is a great library, and I've looked around various forums & wiki's and think the problem may lie in either:
I'd appreciate any advice/help that the community could give on this issue, if I can't get the lower Machs working i'll probably focus on gettign results for those speeds which can provide a supersonic outflow (Ma 1.4+). Many thanks in advance, Tom, Imp. College PS. May be of use a brief overview is available here: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...FOAM_An_Update 

May 19, 2021, 22:42 
Why not freestream?

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Hi,
I wonder why you cannot replicate the same boundary conditions as in tutorial problems, freestream? I'd love to know if you have solved the issue already. Thank you Sid 

May 20, 2021, 11:49 

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Hi,
can you share your BCs? I think the problem is the linf in your waveTransmissiveBC. 

May 22, 2021, 11:36 

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Hi sid, Shock,
Many thanks for your replies! sid I had a look a a couple of the rhoCentralFoam tutorials (on v7), the wedge case uses zerogradients on the top that also strangely act like walls, and a waveTransmissive on the top also seems to act like this (reflecting the Oblique shock like a tunnel wall). I had a brief look at freestream type boundary conditions but was unsure how to implement them in my case. I couldn't find a suitable tutorial for either a supersonic freestream airfoil with these mixed outflows or a shockdiamond exhaust type  would be appreciative of a link to a case like this? Thus far in my research i'm just starting the simulations a little higher (Ma 1.4 where there is a weak Oblique solution and hence no pesky subsonic flow) Shock I thought similar  there is a great sub here on the influence of lInf (l Inf in wave transmissive bc) Quote:
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inlet { type waveTransmissive; field p; psi thermo:psi; gamma 1.4; fieldInf 1; //farfield value lInf 4; //how far away farfield is value uniform $pressure; } Code:
outlet { type waveTransmissive; field p; psi thermo:psi; gamma 1.4; fieldInf 1; //farfield value lInf 4; //how far away farfield is } Would appreciate thoughts! I've uploaded the blank case here if that helps at all: https://github.com/Tjcross31/blank_foamcase 

May 22, 2021, 11:42 

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Hi,
Why would you set the pressure to 1 Pa? This is not continuum Flow that way. I suppose that is the problem. 

May 22, 2021, 12:07 

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Hi Shock,
Ahah i'll explain this one  this is a trick used a fair amount (see the wedge tutorial), we use a nondimensionalised gas species of gamma=1.4 such that at Pressure 1, Temperature 1 and Velocity 1 the Mach number is 1  note that this in invariant on the units system used... 1 could be 1Pa, 1Psi or the ratio of the inflow pressure i.e. P_inflow = 1*P_inflow at inflow Thus we see that the velocity field is also the Mach number field and the pressure and temperature fields are the ratio of the respective increase in these variables, a key part of supersonic analysis. The adjustment is made in constant/thermophysicalProperties note the line: molWeight 11640.3; for regular air this is about 28, we scale such that we get the desired result. Think of it like dynamic similarity. As we are still modelling continuum flow we can do this without consequence, see here: https://develop.openfoam.com/Develop...icalProperties 

May 22, 2021, 12:15 

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What is the goal of doing that? In my opinion it may seem mathematically correct, but I would say its not physical. Besides your viscosity is definitly wrong.
The tutorials are often not physical. 

May 22, 2021, 12:51 

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Hi Shock,
As this is an inviscid simulation campaign there is by definition no viscosity  in that way of course things are slightly 'wrong', real flows are almost always viscous, but for aerodynamic and phenomena modelling we can get away with using models based on the Inviscid Euler equations, which is the case here. Physically we care about shock structures around these biplanes, which has been shown (http://pop.hcdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/...lane_Jpass.pdf) to be mildly invariant of viscous boundary layer effects, so we use laminar simulations, for a variety of reasons The end goal of the project is evaluating some aspects of the airfoil geometry to see if there can be aerodynamic savings etc. I attached a link to the project in the first post, and have a fair amount of validation data to believe that the simulation setup (nondimensionalised gas species etc.) is within those previous research efforts that have used alternative Euler or NS solvers: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...FOAM_An_Update While the tutorials may not be 100% representative of the real physics they model key fluid dynamic principles i.e. oblique shocks and supersonic flow effects. The understanding we extract is limited by our assumptions of course, here we get what we need: the shock angles, pressure and density rises and resultant force coefficients I've attached the case in my previous post, you are more than welcome to change out the gas species, and set the biplane off at atmospheric conditions of 40,000ft, but you'll be performing pressure rise calculations manually afterwards rather than having the field variables show you these directly Thoughts are appreciated 

September 14, 2021, 00:18 

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Hi Tjcross31,
I have a similar issue with my own reactingflow, fully compressible solver that I've built off of rhoCentralFoam. I have a square domain where gas leaves from all four sides due to ignition led expansion in the center. I have currently set these 4 outflows with waveTransmissive BCs for pressure. Since these are subsonic outflows, changing Linf does not make a difference, and I get undesirable reflections off the outflows. Could you let me know if you were able to fix the issue, and how? Thanks, Taaresh 

September 14, 2021, 10:01 

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Hi Taaresh,
Thanks for reading this thread, and I'm sorry you're having a similar issue. Sadly I wasn't able to resolve this or find a fix before the end of the project  but feel a little less alone in the undesirable reflections. The only possible avenue I think which may be better is to look at something like partially matched layers or some kind of artificial damping layer on the very outside of the domain  but it is mildly frustrating that this issue remains! Let me know if you fix this in the future, if not perhaps it's just one of the mysteries of the universe 

September 14, 2021, 12:07 

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Thomas,
No worries. I think there's always the option of coding up the semiimplicit, characteristic BC for subsonic outflows, which can hopefully resolve this (I did this is one of my course projects and it worked there). I was just looking for options that are already available in OF for now. I was hoping that the waveTransmissive BC would do exactly this. I'll let you know if I can fix it. Thanks, Taaresh 

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Can you share your exact boundary conditions and explain why there are shocks in a subsonic flow?
I assume the shock reflects at your waveTransmissive boundary condition, because the farfield value of the pressure, which is used to calculate the boundary properties, is set too high. 

September 15, 2021, 04:08 

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Hi Shock,
Unsure if your question was in response to my post or Taaresh's (Where i'm assuming it was shockless or just a combustion front, where the pressure waves generated were reflecting as if off a wall rather than exiting the domain). If it were in response to my original query the exact boundary conditions are both listed above and in the case file (https://github.com/Tjcross31/blank_f...ank_foamcase/0). Shocks are present here as we are typing to simulate external supersonic flow, the presence of an object in the flow leads to shocks, some of which are strong enough to slow postshock flow to subsonic conditions, causing this mixed outflow. The farfield pressure value was set to be the same as the ambient conditions at the inlet, which represent the air that's being travelled through, at speed in the absence of any shockinfluence 

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It was a response to taaresh01's post.
In your case I do not know what exactly you did during your nondimensionalization. The tutorials in openfoam are not physical, as you said yourself. I cant tell how the waveTransmissive BC reacts on this step. I think the benefit of nondimensionalization for cfd is that the numbers are equally big. Otherwise you have Pressure which ware 10^5 and velocites that might be only 10^1 and so on. There is a statement for that, but I have forgotten it. There are several benefits to do that with solvers. But openfoam itself is dimensional. I cant tell whether your procedure is ok or not. The solver is written in dimensional form and I dont think you can just adjust the molWeight and make it nondimensional. But as I said, I am no expert. 

September 25, 2021, 16:47 

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Hi, Sorry for the tardy reply. I was able to fix it, actually.
Firstly, I don't think the advective BC (or waveTransmissive BC which just overloads the advectionSpeed function) is exactly based on Poinsot and Lele's work of approximating flow as locally inviscid and 1D at the boundaries. Instead, OF simply solves the 1D advection equation for any field that this waveT BC is applied to, and with a wave speed calculated by advectionSpeed(), which is u for advective BC and uc for waveT BC. Having said that, I think this method also suffices in most cases to avoid reflection. The key is to use this BC for ALL the variables. I was earlier using it only for pressure, but kept the velocity as inletOutlet and temperature (and mass fractions in my custom solver) as fixedValue only. But when I shifted to using waveT for all the variables, it worked like a charm. Please check these videos showing the effect of boundary reflection, and how it got handled by using waveT BC for all variables. Also, I set lInf to 0.01 m, since my domain itself was a square of side 0.005 m. And I set the expected farfield values of temperature and pressure to the respective fieldInf variables. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1802...ew?usp=sharing 

September 25, 2021, 17:00 

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@shock77
I have a flow where M ~ 1.05 after a plasma pulse ends, but then the energy quickly decays in the form of acoustic waves as it exits the domain. 

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Hi taaresh01,
I usually set p and U to waveTransmissive. Actually I havent tried to set T to waveTransmissive. Glad you found a solution! 

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