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Old   June 19, 2008, 06:36
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Yeah!! Thanx Bernhard! I will try and report.

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Old   June 19, 2008, 06:58
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Try

http://openfoam-extend.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openfoam-extend/trunk/Core/Ope nFOAM-1.4.1-dev/applications/solvers/conjugate/conjugateHeatFoam/


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Old   June 19, 2008, 07:25
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Thank you very much for the links!! As I m lets say a beginner in OF, I still have no idea how to install the new solver but I will investigate and try!!

Thanx again!!

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Old   June 20, 2008, 06:31
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Dear all!

I investigated and tried ... I copied the files provided by the last link from Hrv to appropriate directories and followed the openfoam wiki "How to add a new solver to FoamX". Unfortunately FoamX "cannot find host ../conjugateHeatFoam/ in name service". Can anybody give me a hint how to install this solver properly?

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Old   June 20, 2008, 14:10
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Dear all

I just downloaded the conjugate heat transfer solver. Haven't got it to compile yet.

I am just looking at the code, and wondering if it can be modified to do something like flow on both sides of the solid.(Think heat exchanger), the 2 fluids are not in direct contact with each other.

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Old   June 20, 2008, 16:05
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Sure, no problem - you can have one fluids region (wih as many bits as you like, one solid region (again, in bits if you wish) and as many interfaces as you want.

If you'd like to have multiple solids and fluids for whatever reason, please let me know.

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Old   June 20, 2008, 22:16
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Thanks Professor Jasak

What if the constitutive relations change for the 2 fluids on either side of the solid?
For example suppose there is supersonic flow, outside an engine and reactive multiphase flow inside the engine.

How would i modify the conjugate heat transfer solver for that?
I guess 'dt' determination is now a headache as there are 2 vastly different flow regimes, on either side of the solid.
I am just starting to learn OpenFoam and i thought that would be a good excercise for me to code and learn more.

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Old   June 21, 2008, 04:14
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Hello

I am having some svn issues with the dev version. Some directories don't get copied with svn.

I type
svn co https://openfoam-extend.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/openfoam-extend/trunk/Core/O penFOAM-1.4-dev
and it seems to download a lot of the development version.
But unfortunatley it didn't download the conjugate directory, which i downloaded manually.
Then i find in the make file, that a coupledfvMatrix is required and i find that the source for that too isn't downloaded.

If i say

srinath@dell:~$ svn co http://openfoam-extend.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openfoam-extend/trunk/Core/Ope nFOAM-1.4.1-dev/applications/solvers/conjugate/conjugateHeatFoam/

i get the output,

svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc/openfoam-extend/trunk/Core/OpenFOAM-1.4.1-dev/applications/solvers/conj ugate/conjugateHeatFoam'
svn: PROPFIND of '/viewvc/openfoam-extend/trunk/Core/OpenFOAM-1.4.1-dev/applications/solvers/conj ugate/conjugateHeatFoam': 301 Moved (http://openfoam-extend.svn.sourceforge.net)


Can someone help me? Am i doing something wrong or is it a bug with the repository?

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Old   June 26, 2008, 09:40
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Hello Srinath,

Not too hard: simply make a 3-region conjugate heat transfer solver and now you can have 3 different sets of equations separately.

The SVN link I can see from here is:

CHT

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Old   August 4, 2008, 16:43
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Hey you said if we were using multiple solids or fluids too let you know :-).

Well it so happens that what I want to be using it for is simulating a thermal interface between cooper and aluminium and a fluid flow over some copper fins.

Also if you have any hints on a way to implement a 1D (know the equations but not the implementation) equations that will take into account a thermal paste between the two solids.

Many thanks for the present model really appreciate your work.
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Old   September 11, 2008, 02:09
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Hi all

I am trying to use the conjugateHeatFoam solver. I am facing the same problem as Srinath. Some files and directories do not get downloaded with SVN.

I tried the link given by Hrvoje but that link does not have coupledFvMatrices.H and regionCouplePolyPatch.H

Is there a problem with downloading, or are we supposed to build these header files by hand?

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Old   September 11, 2008, 03:58
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Hi,
I had also this problem. Then I downloaded the builded files from:
http://powerlab.fsb.hr/ped/kturbo/OpenFOAM/release/
and it works.

Maybe you can try this too?

Good luck!

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Old   September 18, 2008, 13:42
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Hi,
I want to simulate the temperature field during the melting process of a solid. According to literature this process is described by a heat conduction equation containing the total enthalpy H, the temperature T and the latent heat L.
My implementation for this problem is the following:

************************************************** *
fvScalarMatrix HEqn
(
fvm::ddt(rho,H)
+fvm::div(rhoPhi,H)
-fvc::laplacian(L,T)
==
fvc::ddt(rho,dh)
+fvc::div(rhoPhi,dh)
+Q
);

HEqn.solve();

T=H/CP*neg(H-CP*TM)
+TM*neg(H-(CP*TM+L))*pos(H-CP*TM)
+(TM+(H-(CP*TM+L))/CP)*pos(H-(CP*TM+L));

liquid=pos(H-CP*TM)*neg(H-(CP*TM+L))*(H/L-CP*TM/L)+pos(H-(CP*TM+L));

dh=liquid*L;
************************************************** **


H=CP*T+dh: total enthalpy

T: temperature

liquid: liquid phase volume fraction

rho: density

CP: heat capacity

TM: melting temperature

L: latent heat

Q: heat source

With this implementation I get very strange results (extremely high or negative temperatures, depending on the time step), that make no physical sense.
Can anybody tell me, what is wrong in my implementation?

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Old   October 10, 2008, 06:48
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Hello all

Decided to modify the solver a bit to be able to solve for turbulent flow and decided to post the results. If anyone could have a look at it and see if everything is ok it would be nice..

The turbulent part is based on turbFoam and I included the ability to modify the timestep by the maxCo = in the dictionary file.

It must be used with 1.4.1-dev

Hope anyone can use it for something

Looking into developing a steady solver based on simpleFoam but work projects are taking much of my time.

conjugateHeatFoamTurb.tar.gz

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Old   October 15, 2008, 05:41
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hi all!

i have a problem visualizing the results of the multiRegionHeater tutorial (chtMultiRegionFoam solver). no data can be displayed for time steps greater than 0 (for multiRegionHeater.OpenFOAM activated in the pipeline browser). i use OF 1.5 and paraview 3.3.0-dev. i would greatly appreciate any hint! will continue digging till then ...

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Old   November 10, 2008, 12:31
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Hi!

I am running a coupled solver for solving some coupled/not-coupled variables. For that purpose I use "patchCoupled.attach()" and "patchCoupled.detach()" as Hrv. posted in this discussion on Saturday, February 23,2008...BUT...I get the following FATAL ERROR:

--> FOAM FATAL ERROR : Requesting patchToPatchInterpolation in detached state

From function const patchToPatchInterpolation& regionCouplePolyPatch::patchToPatch() const
in file meshes/polyMesh/polyPatches/constraint/regionCouple/regionCouplePolyPatch.C at line 119.

FOAM aborting


Could someone give me a hint about what I am missing?

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Old   November 14, 2008, 10:22
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Hello,

Someone give me the idea which solver should I use for laminar flow(water) where I can see heat flux distribution on it...my shape is pipe

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sorry about the smileys. they should of course read as :o
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Old   December 29, 2008, 06:56
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Your problem is in OFstream: I have added extra arguments to allow stream append consistent with the STL at client's request.

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Old   December 29, 2008, 09:36
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please excuse my ignorance, but could you advise me on how to fix it?

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