
[Sponsors] 
July 7, 2007, 06:54 
Hi
I am studing about the new

#1 
New Member
morteza
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 18
Rep Power: 10 
Sponsored Links
I am studing about the new cavitatingFoam implemented in openfoam1.4. Can someone tell me about the governing equations are used in this solver(or reference to equations). Thanks morteza 

Sponsored Links 
July 7, 2007, 11:36 
Morteza,
cavitatingFoam has a

#2 
Member
David P. Schmidt
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 71
Rep Power: 10 
Morteza,
cavitatingFoam has a few different models for the physics. I can tell you about the "Wallis" model. Wallis derived the equation for the speed of sound through a bubbly mixture in thermal equilibrium. I used this speed of sound relationship as the basis of a cavitation model in the mid 1990's. My other contribution was to find a closedform integral to produce a barotropic equation of state. cavitatingFoam shares the same physical basis, when used with the Wallis model. However, the numerics and behavior are quite different. My code used the explicit expression for pressure which produces a lowcost per time step, but can only be used efficiently for something like diesel fuel injection, where the velocity is the same order of magnitude as the speed of sound. The cavitatingFoam code can operate efficiently at lower velocities. For more info, I have posted my dissertation at: http://www.ecs.umass.edu/~schmidt/Sc...ssertation.pdf 

July 7, 2007, 14:45 
David,
Thanks for your quick

#3 
New Member
morteza
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 18
Rep Power: 10 
David,
Thanks for your quick reply. Morteza 

July 8, 2007, 09:28 
Is it possible to deal with lo

#4 
New Member
Connie Scofield
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 10 
Is it possible to deal with low mach problems?
hi, Dr. Schmidt, You said "The cavitatingFoam code can operate efficiently at lower velocities". But how could it be done? I attempted to simulate a cavitating flow around a hydrofoil at low mach number using cavitatingFoam, but can not get a physically reasonable results. 

July 9, 2007, 11:11 
Connie,
I am mostly an expe

#5 
Member
David P. Schmidt
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 71
Rep Power: 10 
Connie,
I am mostly an expert at my own code, which I wrote using very simple, but pretty stable numerics. The cavitatingFoam code comes from Henry Weller. Fabian Peng Karholm (spelling?) uses it a lot. From what I see, the cavitatingFoam code tries to couple the pressure solution pretty tightly with the eqn. of state and continuity, so that you are treating accoustic waves implicitly. You are trying to avoid having to respect a Courant number that contains the speed of sound in the velocity, because then the stable time step size would have to be tiny. With cavitatingFoam you can take time steps where this accoustic CFL number is much greater than 1.0. I am not sure how high you can go, but the tutoral case operates at an accoustic CFL number of 50, if memory serves. I've had some stability problems with cavitatingFoam too. I haven't invested enough time to know whether the problem is with my inputs or not. I can say this: pressure with a barotropic model should always be positive. But because of the discretization of the pressure equation, cavitatingFoam can predict negative pressures. If you are going to do a hydrofoil, I am not sure how much sense it makes to use a barotropic model anyway. In my thesis, I justify using a barotropic model based on typical fuel injection conditions. As length scales get large, the physics might well change. And if you do something where you have to keep the accoustic courant number < 1 for a big old hydrofoil, you will have to wait a long, long time for the code to run. DPS 

May 11, 2010, 11:43 

#6 
Member
Marta Lazzarin
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 70
Rep Power: 10 
Dear Foamers, i am experiencing a negative pressure too with cavitatingFoam...i read in this post that this can be due to the pressure equation discretization, but what does this exactly mean? is there a way to avoid this that you can advice?
Thank you very much! Marta 

October 14, 2010, 05:16 
compressibility models

#7 
New Member
Jml
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 23
Rep Power: 10 
Hello,
I have read your post about compressibility models and I have some questions. I have used cavitatingFoam with diesel injectors with a linear model of compressibiliy, and it works quite well. Now, I want to improve the realism of the simulations using a "Wallis" or a "Chung" model. However when I used these models the simulation has a lot of problems of convergence, giving unreasonable values of density, pressure.. The only difference between the linear and the other models in the configuration of the case is the rhomin parameter (0.1). Anyone know what are the reason of these problems? Thanks 

May 17, 2014, 23:00 

#8  
Member
yehanyu
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Beijing, China
Posts: 46
Rep Power: 7 
Quote:
psi_=rho*alpha where rho is density, and alpha is isentropic compressibility. The definition of "isentropic compressibility" can be found in many engineering thermodynamics text books, such as Moran M. J. et al. Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics, 7th ed. John Wiley & Sons, 2011 

May 13, 2015, 14:04 

#9  
Member
alvaro
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 4 
Quote:
I'm using cavitatingFoam (OF v.2.3.x) with diesel injectors and convergences issues similar to yours are appearing. I am using the default configuration of tutorial case. Did you get solve the problems finally? In this case, What did you do? Thanks in advance. 

March 29, 2016, 09:33 

#10 
Senior Member
Sandy Lee
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 213
Rep Power: 11 
Hi Schmidt,
I attempt to fo follow your cavitatingFoam to implement the barotropic relations proposed by Delannoy & Kueny in 1998, however, I don't know how to write the pEqn.C . Could you help me? Sandy 

Thread Tools  
Display Modes  


Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
CavitatingFoam psil psiv  kyubi  OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD  7  June 3, 2014 07:06 
CavitatingFoam for Diesel injector nozzles  javier_salvador  OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD  0  July 16, 2008 09:37 
CavitatingFoam with a moving mesh mass conservation error  idosil  OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD  3  November 27, 2007 18:27 
Problem with cavitatingFoam  clo  OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD  1  June 7, 2007 11:53 
LES equations  Daniel  Main CFD Forum  14  March 26, 2005 08:30 
Sponsored Links 