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Old   January 31, 2011, 07:29
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Hello to all,

I am trying to simulate diesel flow in the nozzle of injector. I used inletOutlet boundary condition at the outlet for the velocity and fixedMeanValue at the outlet for pressure. I am using icoFoam solver , pisoFoam solver and cavitatingFoam solver. For the first two i have no problem but for the cavitatingFoam solver at the outlet of the nozzle reverse flow of the Diesel is taking place. Could any one help me is the boundary condition that i have used is right one?? and how can i avoid the reverse flow??? even i tried with extruding the outlet but it dosent work

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Old   February 9, 2011, 05:32
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If you have back flow and you are using inletOutlet, then you need to define the inletValue as (0,0,0). With this, you will avoid the back flow at the outlet.
Have a look at the code of the BC to see how it works.
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Old   February 16, 2011, 11:07
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Hi,

Yes i have set the inletValue as said by you. Even though problem is not solved. Could you please tell me the reason why backflow is occuring ??? is it physical one or boundary condition code mistake????
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Old   February 16, 2011, 13:57
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Well, I can't tell you the reason because I don't know exactly the problem you are dealing with... but from what I can infer from your post the flow is probably cavitating and vapour reaches the outlet... if you have back flow it might be because the pressure inside the domain is lower than the pressure at the outlet patch.

If you use inletOutlet with inlet value (0 0 0) you shouldn't have backflow. Try to post a picture of the velocity vectors perpendicular to the outlet patch so that we can see the back flow.
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Old   February 17, 2011, 02:34
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Hi,

My case is to simulate the diesel flow in the nozzle of the injector. You are right it is cavitating. It is cavitating in the extended pipe like structure. My model is in the attachment.

My boundary consitions are as follows

0/p file:

INLET3
{
type totalPressure;
U U;
phi phi;
rho none;
psi none;
gamma 1;
p0 uniform 1100000;
value uniform 1100000;
}
OUTLET4
{

type fixedMeanValue;
meanValue 100000;

}


and 0/U file:

INLET3
{
type zeroGradient;
}
OUTLET4
{


type inletOutlet;
inletValue uniform (0 0 0);
value uniform (0 0 0);

}

second image is velocity vectors at the outlet
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File Type: jpg nozzle.jpg (13.8 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg VelocityVectors.jpg (27.9 KB, 235 views)

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Old   February 21, 2011, 13:42
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I see the backflow... that is very strange... I also use this boundary condition quite often and I never had this problem.

Have you already checked the source code of the boundary condition? It is useful for ensuring that the boundary does what you expect.

I'll have a look into it when I find time (not in the next days, probably...)
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Old   February 22, 2011, 05:22
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Hi,

Not yet. I will go through it. May be in few days!!! I am not good at these stuffs please let me know if you find something strange!!!!
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Hi, do you find what was your problem? My simulation have reversal flow too and i dont know if i am putting right Bcs
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