CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > OpenFOAM

steady-state combustion using density

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By CedricVH

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   December 12, 2010, 03:11
Default steady-state combustion using density
  #1
New Member
 
Alexander
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Saint-Petersburg
Posts: 29
Rep Power: 16
Svensson is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Svensson
I model the combustion of methane in the burner (reaction CH4 + 2O2 => CO2 + 2H2O). I am wondering whether there is any stationary solver for combustion in openfoam. In my case, take into account the density of gases.

Is there a steady-state version of rhoReactingFoam solver?
Svensson is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 13, 2010, 04:09
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
Nakul
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: India
Posts: 147
Rep Power: 16
nakul is on a distinguished road
Hi,

As far as I know there is know steady state solver but you can try two things:

1) Try mentioning "steadystate" for ddt discretisation in fvSchemes file. This may have some stability issues while running.

or

2) You may edit the source code altogether and create a new solver of your own. Here you can take care of any problems that may come up.

I was myself thinking of makin a steady state solver. So if you try the latter then please tell what all steps did you take.
nakul is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 13, 2010, 08:38
Default
  #3
Member
 
Cedric Van Holsbeke
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Belgium
Posts: 81
Rep Power: 16
CedricVH is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by nakul View Post
1) Try mentioning "steadystate" for ddt discretisation in fvSchemes file. This may have some stability issues while running.
This is not a good idea. If one wants to have a steady solution using a transient solver, ddtschemes should be set to CoEuler or SLTS. These two use local time step limitation (Co based for CoEuler and diagonal dominance based for SLTS) in order to obtain a steady solution.
hua1015 likes this.
CedricVH is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 8, 2013, 08:40
Default
  #4
TBO
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 12
TBO is on a distinguished road
When I am trying to change this I get the following error (for steadyState, CoEuler and SLTS):

--> FOAM FATAL IO ERROR:
attempt to read beyond EOF

file: /home/......./simple_mixer_test_6_steady_CoEuler/system/fvSchemes::ddtSchemes::default at line 20.

From function ITstream::read(token&)
in file db/IOstreams/Tstreams/ITstream.C at line 83.

FOAM exiting

so it looks that it is not possible to change to steady state by changing fvSchemes
TBO is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 9, 2013, 05:35
Default
  #5
TBO
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 12
TBO is on a distinguished road
I already succeeded in getting the change to SLTS or coEuler ddtscheme to run, next challenge is to get convergence...

For other people trying the change the ddt scheme for combustion, these slides might be helpful.
TBO is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 12, 2013, 12:33
Default Steady State
  #6
New Member
 
parsa
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 12
parsa_abbasi is on a distinguished road
Dear All,

I'm doing also the same job with OpenFoam, but until now, i didn't get the semialer result as I got in Transient mode. I made several steady-State Solvers, but seems that No Combustion happens! I'm using the 'psi Combustion Model' which is used in reactingFoam Solver as well. If any of you could run the Transient Solver in Steady-State mode ( with delta T=1 for example , and not with deltaT= 10^-6) or already created a new steady-state solver , I would be so grateful if help me this way,

looking forward to your replies,

Sincerely,

Parsa
parsa_abbasi is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 13, 2013, 02:43
Default
  #7
TBO
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 12
TBO is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by parsa_abbasi View Post
Dear All,

I'm doing also the same job with OpenFoam, but until now, i didn't get the semialer result as I got in Transient mode. I made several steady-State Solvers, but seems that No Combustion happens! I'm using the 'psi Combustion Model' which is used in reactingFoam Solver as well. If any of you could run the Transient Solver in Steady-State mode ( with delta T=1 for example , and not with deltaT= 10^-6) or already created a new steady-state solver , I would be so grateful if help me this way,

looking forward to your replies,

Sincerely,

Parsa
Hi Parsa,

It is worthwile looking at libopensmoke for a steady state combustion solver

Regards,
TBO is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 16, 2013, 05:40
Default
  #8
New Member
 
parsa
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 12
parsa_abbasi is on a distinguished road
Dear TBO,

Thanx for your quick reply and your hints, i read that page already, but couldn't find my answer there, but i will ask it there as well


cheers
parsa_abbasi is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 7, 2014, 07:18
Default
  #9
TBO
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 12
TBO is on a distinguished road
Update on the topic, in the new OF release LTSreactingFoam is available, which is steady state version of reactingFoam (didn't try it yet)
TBO is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 7, 2014, 22:00
Default
  #10
New Member
 
Bin Xu
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Singapore
Posts: 23
Rep Power: 14
norkistar is on a distinguished road
I think LTSreactingFoam is something like LTSinterFoam. For the LTSinterFoam, it can't obtain a reasonable solution as interFoam for what i tried before. Anyone has an idea about that?
norkistar is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
mass flow in is not equal to mass flow out saii CFX 12 March 19, 2018 05:21
Calculation of the Governing Equations Mihail CFX 7 September 7, 2014 06:27
Constant velocity of the material Sas CFX 15 July 13, 2010 08:56
Two-Phase Buoyant Flow Issue Miguel Baritto CFX 4 August 31, 2006 12:02
Warning 097- AB Siemens 6 November 15, 2004 04:41


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 00:44.