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isaac1326 September 24, 2014 21:22

Low Reynolds Number
 
Hi,
Im doing a CFD analysis on a NACA 0012 wing, with a AR of 5.0 at a Re number of 80000. I am validating it with an experimental data. Im still unsure which model I have to be using , whether to go with laminar or use turbulent BL. When I have used , laminar model, the lift coefficients matched, but the drag coefficients are far way off.
Experimental @ 5 degrees
Cl - 0.4, cd -0.12.
My analysis
Cl -0.38, cd -0.06.
Any help in helping me solve this, is deeply appreciated

Alfalfa September 28, 2014 20:28

I guess you could use a low-Reynolds Turbulence model such as k-omega sst. Those are usually good for external aero purpose. That being said, in my experience I've found that it's always hard to match the drag values.

isaac1326 September 29, 2014 02:30

Iv tried that too, Iv played with the turbulence intensity and viscosity ratio too, still no avail , is there a limiting factor for Tu?

me3840 September 29, 2014 17:50

What does your grid look like? That's more than likely the problem.

lcarasik September 29, 2014 18:04

Could the Turbulence Suppression model help in this problem?

isaac1326 October 1, 2014 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by me3840 (Post 512375)
What does your grid look like? That's more than likely the problem.

http://www.4shared.com/folder/prFsZuQ1/_online
I have 300 grid points on the airfoil, and y+ = 0.8,
Regarding the grid, my only question, shd i keep dropping the y+ value, to see if my results would get any better?

isaac1326 October 1, 2014 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarasik (Post 512377)
Could the Turbulence Suppression model help in this problem?

Yes, i have used Turbulence Suppression Model, but the answers still did not change. I am running this simulation in Star CCM+, and i used, SA model, and tried playing with turbulence viscosity ratio, the Cd value increased to 0.89, but I didnt see any major changes,

me3840 October 1, 2014 16:45

You're doing LES for this?

isaac1326 October 2, 2014 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by me3840 (Post 512626)
You're doing LES for this?

I am doing RANS for this

me3840 October 2, 2014 12:10

I thought the turbulent suppression model was for LES.

Anyway, can you show me the grid?

isaac1326 October 3, 2014 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by me3840 (Post 512718)
I thought the turbulent suppression model was for LES.

Anyway, can you show me the grid?

http://www.4shared.com/folder/prFsZuQ1/_online.html

me3840 October 4, 2014 17:48

Your near-wall layers seem to be really coarse. What is your wall y+?

isaac1326 October 4, 2014 22:10

I have kept it as 0.5

shashankshankar June 9, 2018 05:12

same problem different issues
 
hello Isaac
we're you able to resolve?
in my case drag coefficient is captured with minimal error of 1-3% whereas lift coefficient is way off. any help or suggestions please


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