CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > Siemens > STAR-CCM+

Beginners Guide Needed: Meshing.

Register Blogs Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   August 7, 2009, 09:44
Default Beginners Guide Needed: Meshing.
  #1
New Member
 
james charlton
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 16
charltonjames is on a distinguished road
Hi, i am very new to Star-CCM+ (3 days) and as i only have a 14 day license i dont have long to really teach myself too much. I was therefore hoping that some of you may be kind enough to help me out stage by stage. I am not looking for great accuracy, but just wish to check that Star-CCM+ is able to do what i wish before i purchase the software.

I am trying to model wind movement within city centre squares, in particular i am using a case study of Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. I have created a 3D model in sketchup, which i have managed to import into Star-CCM+ in a .stl format. However, i need to remesh this (i dont think thats the technical term). The only guidance i have is the first tutorial under the meshing tutorials in help guide. However, i have copy this correclty i end up with 20,000,000 + faces. If i leave the meshing values default it makes my model very angular.

Could anyone provide a relative solution to this.

Thank you for your time

James
charltonjames is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 7, 2009, 11:36
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
Aroon
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Racine WI
Posts: 148
Rep Power: 17
vishyaroon is on a distinguished road
You can play around with the minimum and maximum surface mesh sizes to get a coarser mesh. This can significantly reduces the surface mesh count
vishyaroon is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 7, 2009, 16:10
Default
  #3
New Member
 
james charlton
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 16
charltonjames is on a distinguished road
Thanks vishyaroon, i have been doing that this afternoon and so far the results have been much better. Thanks for the help.

I do however, have one further problem, i am happy with the mesh generated by the Generate Surface Mesh button. However, when i then click the Generate Volume Mesh button i get an error stating surface not closed. Any idea how to resolve this?

Thanks

James
charltonjames is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 7, 2009, 16:15
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Aroon
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Racine WI
Posts: 148
Rep Power: 17
vishyaroon is on a distinguished road
These are a result of having a region that is not closed or having free edges. Check for free edges in teh imported geometry and then you can either fill up loops of free edges or zip free edges to get rid of these.

If you have a lot of free edges that you feel might require zipping, go for Surface Wrapping, before the Surface Remeshing stage. This closes the gaps and you could have a closed surface.
vishyaroon is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 7, 2009, 16:20
Default
  #5
f-w
Senior Member
 
f-w's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 154
Rep Power: 17
f-w is on a distinguished road
Select the wrapper as one of your mesh models. Also, you will need to enclose your city (in a box, for example) to define the fluid region. You can do this by going into Representations>Import>Create Surface>Block. Select the option to create separate boundaries for each side, which you later will have to assign conditions to ...
f-w is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 8, 2009, 06:40
Default
  #6
New Member
 
james charlton
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 16
charltonjames is on a distinguished road
Thanks vishyaroon and f-w that has been a great help!! Im slowly starting to get an understanding of this software thanks to your help. I'll give both of your suggestions a try this afternoon. One further question if you dont mind, do i create the box after i have generated the surface and volume mesh for my city? Also, do i have to generate a surface and volume mesh for the created box? or is it ok to leave it how it is?

Thanks again guys, you've been a great help.

James
charltonjames is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 8, 2009, 21:08
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
Aroon
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Racine WI
Posts: 148
Rep Power: 17
vishyaroon is on a distinguished road
You may want to generate the box with your city inside before you start generating the surface mesh. The region to be meshed will be inside the box but outside the buildings that you are considering, where you are interested in analyzing the flow.
vishyaroon is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 10, 2009, 13:09
Default
  #8
f-w
Senior Member
 
f-w's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 154
Rep Power: 17
f-w is on a distinguished road
James,

You'll need to create the box BEFORE you mesh anything. Have all your boundaries in a single region, and then mesh.

To give you an idea of what happens when the wrapper goes to work: think of a balloon that's inflated inside the box you created, the balloon expands and wraps around everything it comes in contact with (boundaries of the box and buildings). The result is 3D space (stuff inside the balloon) defining where the air will be modeled.
f-w is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 7, 2017, 02:23
Default
  #9
New Member
 
Andi
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 17
Rep Power: 10
Andi_Didi is on a distinguished road
I hope this wil help you learn about meshing until simulation and post-processing. This is from my friend. Good luck learning. But i just have the tutorial from my country language, that's Bahasa Indonesia. so you can translate it by yourself later.

Tutorial how to use star ccm+ Simple Case :

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ey...NVxwS3pPK6EFcU
Andi_Didi is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help needed for meshing the following geometry... eers Main CFD Forum 11 June 29, 2009 15:29
[GAMBIT] Help needed with meshing! fluentnoob ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 24 June 6, 2009 17:41
Marine current turbine (meshing and stimulation help needed!!) coolyihao FLOW-3D 0 March 16, 2009 11:48
urgent help needed for meshing in GAMBIT chris FLUENT 0 September 5, 2002 09:18
CFD Books Guide Pre-Release, Help Needed David & Jonas Main CFD Forum 1 March 2, 2000 02:57


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:55.