Quality assessment of LES by the subgrid viscosity ratio
Hi, everybody,
Can anyone help me with the LES quality assessment by means of the subgrid viscosity ratio? I mean, is there any particular requirement about the subgrid viscosity ratio when using LES? I found little relevant information in this forum (http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/cfx...ratio-les.html) but was still confused. |
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Furthermore, LES can be performed with many other SGS models other than an eddy viscosity model. |
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I'm sorry for not telling the context. I've done a LES with the standard Smagorinsky-Lilly SGS model and was asked for the quality assessment for that. The viscosity ratio method is suggested as one of the standard methods (other methods including the fraction of resolved TKE, a two-point correlation). In the "fraction of resolved TKE" method, it's reported that a good LES should resolve at least 80% of the TKE. So I wonder if there is any similar criterion for the "viscosity ratio" method. Hope this makes the question more clear. Thank you. Shuangqingx |
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Yes, I partecipated at that conference, the full study was published here: http://people.mech.kuleuven.be/~jmey..._22_125106.pdf However, I did not suggested it as I was quite critical in using this methodology for many reasons... |
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One more question, senior. Hartmann et al (Chemical Engineering Science, 2004, 59, 2419-2432. see http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...09250904001575) have some discussions about the eddy viscosity ratio and the grid resolution of their LES (specifically in Section 5.1, the lower right quarter of page 2423). What would you comment on that? Thanks. Shuangqingx |
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In any case, I do not agree that the capturing of the Kolmogorov scale by an LES can be assessed by the profiles of SGS viscosity. |
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I have some papers published wherein the SGS viscosity profiles were analyzed but I used the dynamic Smagorinsky and the analysis does not imply the LES assessment in terms of capturing of the Kolmogorov scale. |
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see for example
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00162-010-0202-x#page-1 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...45793012004537 |
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