Actually, I tried yesterday night for a few times, but got a worse curve.:D
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In addition, do you have literatures about the ERCOFTAC T3A-, T3A, T3B benchmarks and the S&K' s ? Could you sent a copy to me? I have the paper by Walters and Cokljat, however, I could not find the literature of their test cases. Thanks. Sandy sandy.lee37@gmail.com |
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Hi, I'm trying to use the kklOmega turbolence model to simulate the flow around a 2d naca 0012; here my initial/boundary conditions:
domain: k inletOutlet (5.4e-3) kt inletOutlet (5.4e-3) kl inletOutlet (0) nut inletOutlet (1e-5) nuTilda inletOutlet (1e-5) omega inletOutlet (5.4e5) p outletInlet (0) U inletOutlet (0 2.9886 0.2615) wall: k kqRWallFunction (0) kt inletOutlet (5.4e-3) kl fixedValue (0) nut nutkWallFunction (1e-5) nuTilda zeroGradient omega zeroGradient p zeroGradient U fixedValue (0 0 0) Omega becomes negative after some iterations and the solutions doesn't seem to converge to a reasonable value. I have also problems with the evaluation of the wallShearStress that becomes very high aft of the predicted transitional region. I can't see where I fail. Any suggestion is appreciated. Thank you!! |
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mesh and then everything works fine. It seems all LRN models have convergence problem. |
Hi Daniel,
Do you mean that I've to deal with a finer mesh? I'm using simpleFoam so there shouldn't be time step problem, Am I wrong? Thank you for the reply! |
Hiya EGP, I have run a kkl-omega case and I am trying to post process the data, however I am having trouble in plotting the Cf versus (Re)x graph to find transition. I have sampled the wall shear stress to find the skin friction coefficient, but I am unsure of getting the (Re)x data from my simulation. Your help would be much appreciated!
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Hi everyone
Sorry if this question sounds stupid, but has anyone tried or does anyone know if this model works well with wall functions? (y+ ~ 50) also when I was trying to set up a case, I got this error when trying to run Code:
Starting time loop Thanks |
strikeraj,
You need to have a y+ of less then one cuz this model uses near wall approach and you can't use a wall function, it simply does not give you transition. |
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Yes Strikeraj, I agree to Vahini. I guess, this method should be given the same fine grids as like as LES if you solve a three-dimension problem ... |
Thanks Sandy and Vahini
I guess I missed the obvious part in the model lol |
Hey!
How does one know, that the kinamatic turbulent viscosity nut and nuTilda have to be set to the viscosity of the fluid (1.5e-5)? And why did you calculate omega with the formula: nut = kt/omega In the official paper from D. Keith Walters it says that: mut = rho * Cmu,std * kt/omega with Cmu,std = 0.09 so in your formula Cmu,std is missing. greetings Christian |
I would like to use the new kklomega model for a Velomobile study (A typical low Reynolds case). Would anyone of you be willing to give me some advice? See http://openfoamforvelomobiling.blogspot.com/. The Velox team (http://www.hptdelft.nl/en/) have done windtunnel tests on their body. It would be very interesting to compare their results with those of the kklomega model...
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what is the "new kklomega model " ?
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Dear Sandy
I mean this: Version 2.1.0 includes the k-kl-omega (low-Re) model for Reynolds-average simulation of incompressible flows with a boundary layer that undergoes a transition from laminar to turbulent flow. The model is described in D. K. Walters and D. Cokljat, J. Fluids Eng. 130:121401 (2008) and is based on the model k-w with an additional transport equation included to predict low-frequency velocity fluctuations that trigger transition in the boundary layer. |
Hey,
I have a 2D airfoil simulation with settings like the above. Mesh is from blockMesh, checkMesh is fine, standard kOmegaSST converges but applying kkLOmega crashes. omega explodes, I tried all kinds of limiters but they have no effect. Any idea? Help would be greatly appreciated :) Mads |
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Hmm, I am running it in steady mode for a steady problem.
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I have tried running this without wall functions, but openfoam will replace the files in the 0 folder with files that have wall functions and back up the old ones having a .old extension. How can I run a turbulence model (kklomega inthis case) without wall functions?
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I think you need to edit the 0/nut file that openfoam creates and remove the wall function for nut.
Then you can move back your .old files to the original. |
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Thank you so much - this worked - it's running now without replacing the initial condition files. |
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