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meandcfd June 25, 2018 17:17

Meshfree CFD
 
I'm looking for some software that doesn't require a mesh. The meshing is taking weeks and process time weeks more. Any ideas?

DarylMusashi June 25, 2018 18:06

Yes of course, grab some money and buy a Lattice-Boltzmann code. If you have some time Direct Numerical Simulation (DNS) would also be interesting for you.... ;o)

Or you can outsource the meshing part to some experts, who know what they are doing? Seriously, what are you meshing?

meandcfd June 25, 2018 18:39

LB is actually a path we are looking into but would prefer commercial software.

Project is rotating a high-powered spray of liquid inside of a pipe (cleaning off the buildup with high pressure). Nozzle will rotate around central axis and travel along pipe. Pipe surfaces have bends and occasional protrusions.

DarylMusashi June 25, 2018 18:43

Okay, sounds interesting. Palabos is indeed a LB-solver, which will be integrated in NUMECA's new environment OMNIS and will be commercially distributed. In about 10 hours there's a webinar about it. If you are interested in the actual status I can keep you updated. Meanwhile, you can check out https://www.numeca.com/product/omnislb .

flotus1 June 25, 2018 19:40

Having spent quite some time developing a grid generator for LB solvers, I am baffled every time it is categorized as a "meshless" method :confused:

DarylMusashi June 26, 2018 03:11

Flotus you are right of course - it was meant that the user does not need to spend time for mesh generation when using a LB code, since it is generated automatically.

Blanco June 26, 2018 10:55

Take a look at CONVERGE software.
It creates the mesh automatically, has good capabilities for spray modelling and includes automatic mesh refinement.

meandcfd June 26, 2018 14:18

the Converge software didn't do well with the auto mesh according to my co-worker. Any experience on using particles (Lagrangian) instead of a mesh?

Blanco June 27, 2018 03:10

No I've have not used LB softwares yet.
I don't know what are the requirements you have for your mesh, I'm using Converge for internal combustion engines (moving mesh + complex physics) and I'm ok with it, I've never had serious problems with the mesh so far

meandcfd June 27, 2018 09:59

I found this on the web under a search for Meshfree CFD and may do a trial (yes, I actually clicked on an ad...). Anybody familiar with ParticleWorks?

http://www.enginsoftusa.com/Mesh-Free-CFD.html

RobertHB June 28, 2018 06:03

How about using SPH? Afaik, it doesn't use a mesh.

LuckyTran June 28, 2018 14:57

I think you should figure out how to mesh it. But I highly recommend numeca. I've also heard nice things about CONVERGE.

meandcfd July 24, 2018 12:55

Update - starting trial of LB method software. Will post how it does.

-DodgerIsBlack- July 28, 2018 23:43

You can try smoothed particle hydrodynamics. It is mainly used for simulations such as galactic motion or planetary collisions.

meandcfd August 24, 2018 08:40

We are in the process of working with ParticleWorks which uses what they call moving particle semi-implicit (MPS) method? Any experience with this software?

specializedSPH September 22, 2018 07:23

ISPH Code
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meandcfd (Post 703801)
We are in the process of working with ParticleWorks which uses what they call moving particle semi-implicit (MPS) method? Any experience with this software?

I will be happy to send you my developed ISPH code that I wrote about 8 ISI papers and 10 conference papers with it:
1. Incompressible SPH simulation of landslide impulse-generated water waves. Natural Hazards, 82(3), 1779-1802.
2. Modified variable mass incompressible SPH method for simulating internal fluid flows. Journal of the Brazilian Society of Mechanical Sciences and Engineering, 38(7), 2009-2027.
3. Eulerian ISPH Method for Simulating Internal Flows. Journal of Applied Fluid Mechanics, 9(3).
4. On the numerical simulation of the nonbreaking solitary waves run up on sloping beaches. Computers & Mathematics with Applications, 70(9), 2270-2281.
5. Comparative study on the accuracy of solitary wave generations in an ISPH-based numerical wave flume. Applied Ocean Research, 54, 115-136.
6. Simulating Solitary Wave Generation Using Incompressible SPH. Ann Limnol Oceanogr 1(1): 013-021.
7. On the Generation, Propagation and Runup of Solitary Water Waves on Steep Beaches, in 6th International Offshore Industries Conference (Tehran, Sharif University of Technology: 2015).
8. ISPH Numerical Simulation of Tsunami Generation by Submarine Landslides, Arabian Journal of Geosciences

meandcfd June 3, 2019 17:16

specializedSPH - so does your code do something like this? Yes, I would like a copy.

https://enginsoftusa.com/Particlewor...y-Tsunami.html

specializedSPH June 7, 2019 23:56

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meandcfd June 24, 2019 11:31

For anyone reading this post - specializedSPH is charging for the SPH code. This is not a free item like it implies with 'happy to send'

Quote:

Originally Posted by specializedSPH (Post 707111)
I will be happy to send you my developed ISPH code that I wrote about 8 ISI papers and 10 conference papers with it:
1. Incompressible SPH simulation of landslide impulse-generated water waves. Natural Hazards, 82(3), 1779-1802.
2. Modified variable mass incompressible SPH method for simulating internal fluid flows. Journal of the Brazilian Society of Mechanical Sciences and Engineering, 38(7), 2009-2027.
3. Eulerian ISPH Method for Simulating Internal Flows. Journal of Applied Fluid Mechanics, 9(3).
4. On the numerical simulation of the nonbreaking solitary waves run up on sloping beaches. Computers & Mathematics with Applications, 70(9), 2270-2281.
5. Comparative study on the accuracy of solitary wave generations in an ISPH-based numerical wave flume. Applied Ocean Research, 54, 115-136.
6. Simulating Solitary Wave Generation Using Incompressible SPH. Ann Limnol Oceanogr 1(1): 013-021.
7. On the Generation, Propagation and Runup of Solitary Water Waves on Steep Beaches, in 6th International Offshore Industries Conference (Tehran, Sharif University of Technology: 2015).
8. ISPH Numerical Simulation of Tsunami Generation by Submarine Landslides, Arabian Journal of Geosciences


andy_ July 4, 2019 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by meandcfd (Post 697190)
I'm looking for some software that doesn't require a mesh. The meshing is taking weeks and process time weeks more. Any ideas?

Automatic grid generation will eliminate the meshing time but what type and how well it works will depend on what you are trying to simulate. Usually one is gaining some convenience at the price of a significantly less accurate simulation compared to one using a well adapted grid. This may or may not be appropriate depending on what you are trying to do.

Meshfree methods are a reasonable approach for only a relatively small number of engineering problems.


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