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sriram9127 June 29, 2016 01:49

Volume mesh and Automated mesh
 
Hi evry1
I am new with CFD and STAR CCM+. When does the volumetric mesh icon must be used.Is it necessary to perform volumetric mesh after Automated mesh is performed.I've used
Surface remesher
tet
prism layer

should i perform volumetric mesh aftr these.

Thank u

marmot June 29, 2016 02:26

I suggest taking a few hours and doing some of the meshing tutorials, this program is really easy to use but its good to run some tutorials still,

sriram9127 June 29, 2016 03:29

thank u. i am learning already.Bu can u tel me whats the difference between volumetric mesh and automated mesh?

taillanm June 29, 2016 03:44

the automated mesh contains the surface mesher and volume mesher. the documentation explains it well

sriram9127 June 29, 2016 06:39

thank u. wil luk into tat.
Consider a problem is running attaining convergence.i stop the iteration make some value change(not much).When start the problem to run , the residual values are attaining a very high peak value and continues to converge.Does this affects the result?

sriram9127 June 29, 2016 06:59

Can any1 Suggest a basic book to start CFD.i am supposed to work on Star CCM+ now is it better than Fluent??? If so, in what way? Coz i've used fluent a couple of times the results were much quicker than CCM.
Thank u

me3840 June 29, 2016 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by sriram9127 (Post 607191)
thank u. wil luk into tat.
Consider a problem is running attaining convergence.i stop the iteration make some value change(not much).When start the problem to run , the residual values are attaining a very high peak value and continues to converge.Does this affects the result?


For a steady-state simulation, no. For a transient run, possibly - depending on what the result is and what you're interested in.

me3840 June 29, 2016 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sriram9127 (Post 607195)
Can any1 Suggest a basic book to start CFD.i am supposed to work on Star CCM+ now is it better than Fluent??? If so, in what way? Coz i've used fluent a couple of times the results were much quicker than CCM.
Thank u


There are lots of books to 'start' CFD, if you want to learn the basics I would suggest this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-.../dp/0131274988

The question of 'which code is better' is a matter of opinion and experience and varies from application to application. My experience with both codes is that generally STAR-CCM+ is better. Going from CAD files to a volume mesh is almost always faster and far easier, especially with very complicated geometries. Making changes to a model is easier. The solver is not any faster than Fluent's, though, and Fluent's has more options in terms of discretization schemes and coupling schemes.

sriram9127 June 30, 2016 07:25

Thank you will start from the book

sriram9127 July 1, 2016 01:49

For a flow thru pipe problem
3D,steady,constant density,turbulent,k-epsilon
Wall roughness-0.00004m

Mesh parameter:
Surface remeshr
polyhedrl meshr
prism layer mesher-(hyperbolic tangent-stretch function,20 no.of prism layers,prism layer Near wall thickness-0.00004m)
base size:0.005m

i got pressure drop as 2613 pa from simulation
when i repeat a new simulation with same parameters,i am not getting the same result

Why????:confused:

sriram9127 July 5, 2016 05:04

Multi roughness wall
 
Hi evry1
I am working on a problem of flow through pipe(using water medium).Consider i am having a multi roughness wall.(i.e) two dissimilar materials forming a wall hence their roughness values differs.How do i enter the roughness values separately.Is this even possible?
Its a turbulent flow problem.

marmot July 5, 2016 08:39

perhaps start a new thread for this question, but not really sure do the two different materials (walls) occupy the same space, than you need to use an eq. value, anyways wall roughness parameter is a model, one can have very long discussions on the meaning of parameter.

if you have a flat surface and these two different materials are next to each other than you need to somehow split the surface to get two boundaries so you can define the roughness for each one.

sriram9127 July 5, 2016 23:56

got it
 
Thank u...Yes the surfaces are flat and next to each other in a single pipe.I've split the surfaces as split by patch and gave separate roughness values.

sriram9127 July 11, 2016 07:41

new thread
 
how to post a new thread. i cant find it.:confused:

taillanm July 11, 2016 07:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by sriram9127 (Post 608838)
how to post a new thread. i cant find it.:confused:

home > forums > star ccm + : new thread

sriram9127 July 11, 2016 23:55

got it
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taillanm (Post 608839)
home > forums > star ccm + : new thread

thank you..found it


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