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Old   November 28, 2010, 12:38
Default Meshing a Wheel in Pointwise/Fluent problem
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Hi All,

I am attempting to mesh an external flow around an aircraft wheel (closed rim) in Pointwise to run using (at first) the k-e RKE model with Enhanced Wall Function.

My mesh is built up in sections, first is the boundary layer. Using Y+ of 1 (0.0057mm) and expansion ratio of 1.2, for a wheel D of 1.4m, and reynolds number of 6.71x10^6, 70m/s. The quarter-wheel profile is meshed in 2d then rotated/mirrored around to cover the whole wheel. This is then built up into the far field cuboid mesh, 5.6m x 5.6m x 4.2m (infront) x 10m (behind), 3.6 million cells in total. (see attachments). Pointwise Wall Spacing examination corresponds to equivalent ~ 0.6>y+>1.6 around the whole wheel.

Now, when I run it in Fluent, I get Continuity divergence after only about 50 iterations, and when I do a Turblence>YPlus contour in fluent I often see huge Y+ values (10^3), although this seems to vary depending on how long i run it, so I don't know whether due to the divergence this examination is irrelevant.

So in summary, according to Pointwise, my y+ is pretty consistent, but I get continuity convergence quickly in fluent. I have re-meshed loads of times with same divergence. So not sure whether it's a Pointwise or Fluent problem.

Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old   November 28, 2010, 17:43
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Luke,

What are the dimensions of the wheel? I ask because you have to make sure it's scaled properly in Fluent, as it works in meters. For example, if you created a wheel with a diameter of 1000 in Pointwise, representing the units mm, you will have to scale it in Fluent by a factor of 0.001.

Since you reported y+ values 3 orders of magnitude higher than you were expecting, my guess is that your Reynolds number is 1000 too large, hence the incorrect scaling.

Let me know if that works.

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Old   November 28, 2010, 19:27
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Genius! It worked!

Thanks Chris, this had been bugging me for weeks. It was indeed the scaling so Fluent thought my mesh was 10km long! Now I can move on to the proper stuff

Many thanks again, I should have posted this ages ago. Yet another reason why CFD online/wiki is an indispensable resource!

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Hi,

I am using a k-omega SST model on a flow going through a duct. I should get my y+ between 1 and 5 I believe from what I've seen. I found out about a scaling issues in Fluent thanks to your previous posts. However I am still having difficulties obtaining the right y+ values from my mesh. When I try to adapt in Fluent it halves the y+ value but horribly increases the number of cells. My mesh y+ is about 60 so that I can't obtain the correct y+ value with a decent sized mesh in Fluent. I'm wondering if this is another scaling issue in Pointwise (importing from CATIA to Pointwise, or in Pointwise, do I have to set the units ? If I go to Properties the ratio of Grid/Database is about 600 ??). Or am I using the adapt function in Fluent wrong ?
Any thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Dear all,

I am meshing a model of ship. Have anybody known How to create structure mesh? please advise me !
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