# User talk:Tsaad

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+ | Tony: A long time ago you uploaded a "Turbulence Modeling for Beginners" guide. Was this written in latex? I'd like to write an introduction to the turbulence modeling section in CFD-Wiki and it would be good to have something in latex to base it on. --[[User:Jola|Jola]] 07:47, 22 May 2007 (MDT) | ||

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+ | Tony: | ||

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+ | Can you explain to me just what is wrong with the e-Solutions for Energy Conversion Systems and/or e-Solutions for Compressible Flow provided by Engineering Software? | ||

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+ | Thanks, | ||

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+ | Gordan | ||

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+ | I would like to find out ... | ||

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+ | Tony: | ||

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+ | My name is Gordan Feric and I provided e-Solutions for Energy Conversion Systems material. | ||

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+ | How come it is not related to CFD Online? | ||

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+ | Thanks, | ||

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+ | Gordan | ||

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Hi Tony, | Hi Tony, | ||

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- | + | I don't know if this should be on my talk page or yours, so I'll put it here. While I agree that there should be consistency across the pages, I don't agree with using all capitals - especially since it is not consistent with linear algebra texts and literature. We should strike a balance there, and in many of the texts/papers I have, Ax=b is used for linear systems, not A\phi=b (or any capitalization variation thereof). There is a difference between solvers appropriate for A\vec{x}=\vec{b} and solvers appropriate for AX=B (all matrices). We muddy the water on that issue if we use all capitals all the time. Thus, I disagree that using \Phi will be clearer. | |

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+ | In the interests of compromise, I suggest the following: use upper case for matrices, denote vectors with \vec, and use lower case (with subscripts) for elements of either. I was in the process of editing the LU page, and that is what I have done with that (except for the elements of L and U, which I'll fix after I get done with my grading). I think it looks pretty good. | ||

(Two side notes: The only reason there was still a "B" in the GE page was that you saved an edit while I was in process of doing my edit. When I merged my edits back in, I missed that. Also, I don't think that using "A \cdot b" for matrix-vector multiplication is a good idea) | (Two side notes: The only reason there was still a "B" in the GE page was that you saved an edit while I was in process of doing my edit. When I merged my edits back in, I missed that. Also, I don't think that using "A \cdot b" for matrix-vector multiplication is a good idea) | ||

Regards, | Regards, | ||

+ | Jason | ||

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+ | == Vector Nomenclature == | ||

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+ | Hi Tony, | ||

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+ | I can give several reasons why I prefer x to <math>\phi</math>: First, it is the one that I see most in the linear algebra literature, so it is easier to proofread algorithms, etc. Second, in my opinion it looks better. When more than one vector is involved, it is better to have them be all roman letters (see [[LU decomposition method]]) rather than one roman, another greek, etc. Third (and most importantly), it is usual to use greek letters for scalar multipliers (see the [[Conjugate gradient methods]]). If greek letters are getting used for both scalars and vectors, I think that only makes confusion more likely. | ||

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+ | <math>\Phi</math> and <math>\phi</math> are not free of alternate meanings (e.g. viscous dissipation and potential function), and the nomenclature collision problem is essentially unavoidable no matter what is chosen. | ||

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+ | Regards, | ||

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Jason | Jason |

## Latest revision as of 13:47, 22 May 2007

Tony: A long time ago you uploaded a "Turbulence Modeling for Beginners" guide. Was this written in latex? I'd like to write an introduction to the turbulence modeling section in CFD-Wiki and it would be good to have something in latex to base it on. --Jola 07:47, 22 May 2007 (MDT)

Tony:

Can you explain to me just what is wrong with the e-Solutions for Energy Conversion Systems and/or e-Solutions for Compressible Flow provided by Engineering Software?

Thanks,

Gordan

PS

I would like to find out ...

Tony:

My name is Gordan Feric and I provided e-Solutions for Energy Conversion Systems material.

How come it is not related to CFD Online?

Thanks,

Gordan

Hi Tony,

I don't know if this should be on my talk page or yours, so I'll put it here. While I agree that there should be consistency across the pages, I don't agree with using all capitals - especially since it is not consistent with linear algebra texts and literature. We should strike a balance there, and in many of the texts/papers I have, Ax=b is used for linear systems, not A\phi=b (or any capitalization variation thereof). There is a difference between solvers appropriate for A\vec{x}=\vec{b} and solvers appropriate for AX=B (all matrices). We muddy the water on that issue if we use all capitals all the time. Thus, I disagree that using \Phi will be clearer.

In the interests of compromise, I suggest the following: use upper case for matrices, denote vectors with \vec, and use lower case (with subscripts) for elements of either. I was in the process of editing the LU page, and that is what I have done with that (except for the elements of L and U, which I'll fix after I get done with my grading). I think it looks pretty good.

(Two side notes: The only reason there was still a "B" in the GE page was that you saved an edit while I was in process of doing my edit. When I merged my edits back in, I missed that. Also, I don't think that using "A \cdot b" for matrix-vector multiplication is a good idea)

Regards, Jason

## Vector Nomenclature

Hi Tony,

I can give several reasons why I prefer x to : First, it is the one that I see most in the linear algebra literature, so it is easier to proofread algorithms, etc. Second, in my opinion it looks better. When more than one vector is involved, it is better to have them be all roman letters (see LU decomposition method) rather than one roman, another greek, etc. Third (and most importantly), it is usual to use greek letters for scalar multipliers (see the Conjugate gradient methods). If greek letters are getting used for both scalars and vectors, I think that only makes confusion more likely.

and are not free of alternate meanings (e.g. viscous dissipation and potential function), and the nomenclature collision problem is essentially unavoidable no matter what is chosen.

Regards,

Jason