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February 18, 2009, 11:45 |
Is it really important Y+??
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Hi all,
I am trying to understand how really affects the mesh in the solution for a well-known problem like the flow past a sphere (D=0.1m) I am performing series of simulations, all at Re=1.4e4 and where the Cd should be 0.4, according to several experimental data also performed at Re=1e4. The fact is that I am not able to see a logical correlation between the Y+ and the accuracy in the solution depending on the turbulence model deployed in the simulation. Let me show you my little results: ===Simulation 1=== -Velocity inlet: v=1m/s -Turbulence Int=0.1% -Hydraulic diam=4m -Mesh: boundary layer composed of 4 prisms, first row is 3mm thick and the other 3 grow geometrically at a ratio of 1.2 -Solutions: k-e Realizable, QUICK, Std wall functions -> Cd=0.303 k-w SST, QUICK -> Cd=0.357 Y+ in both cases goes from 2 to 18, which is not suitable for Std. wall functions, as showed in Fluent manuals (well-known recommendation of 30<Y+<300) ===Simulation 2=== -Velocity inlet: v=1m/s -Turbulence Int=0.1% -Hydraulic diam=4m -Mesh: boundary layer composed of 10 prisms, first row is 0.5mm thick and the other 9 grow lineally with a slope of 0.5 up to a thickness of 15mm -Solutions: k-e Realizable, QUICK, Std wall functions -> Cd=0.363 k-e Realizable, QUICK, Non-equilibrium wall functions -> Cd=0.392 (convergence is difficult) k-w SST, QUICK -> Cd=0.51 Y+ in both cases goes from 0.5 to 2.5 I don't really see that following the criteria of 30<Y+<300 the results would be the best. What do you think? My headache and worry now is to understand and be able to make simulations that are mesh-independent. How can I rely on my mesh? Do you know literature on the internet or book where I can read about this issue of mesh-independency solutions? Thanks a lot for your opinions in advance! |
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