CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Turbulent Velocity Scale and Turbulent Viscosity Ratio

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   June 17, 2020, 12:38
Default Turbulent Velocity Scale and Turbulent Viscosity Ratio
  #1
Senior Member
 
MA
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 163
Rep Power: 6
mazhar16823 is on a distinguished road
Hi Everyone,


I am using K-Omega SST Model for an external aerodynamics (wind turbine) problem.


For the initial conditions, I want to calculate the turbulent velocity scale and viscosity ratio.


First, I used the reference: https://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Turb...ary_conditions


However, the equations I used are taken from STARCCM+ Manual. While calculating for Turbulent Velocity Scale, I see that for turbulent length scale I need turbulent time scale and for turbulent time scale I need specific dissipation rate (omega) and for omega, again I need turbulent length scale as shown in the picture. This is confusing, how can I evaluate turbulence length scale to get the turbulent velocity scale in the end?


Secondly, for turbulence viscosity ratio, I checked with above link it is "Mu_t/Mu" but I don't know how to get Mu_t and whether "Mu" in the denominator is dynamic viscosity?


Thanks for your time;
mazhar16823 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 17, 2020, 12:43
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
MA
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 163
Rep Power: 6
mazhar16823 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by mazhar16823 View Post
Hi Everyone,


I am using K-Omega SST Model for an external aerodynamics (wind turbine) problem.


For the initial conditions, I want to calculate the turbulent velocity scale and viscosity ratio.


First, I used the reference: https://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Turb...ary_conditions


However, the equations I used are taken from STARCCM+ Manual. While calculating for Turbulent Velocity Scale, I see that for turbulent length scale I need turbulent time scale and for turbulent time scale I need specific dissipation rate (omega) and for omega, again I need turbulent length scale as shown in the picture. This is confusing, how can I evaluate turbulence length scale to get the turbulent velocity scale in the end?


Secondly, for turbulence viscosity ratio, I checked with above link it is "Mu_t/Mu" but I don't know how to get Mu_t and whether "Mu" in the deominator is dynamic viscosity?


Thanks for your time;

Sorry I forgot to attach the figure. Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...VxIKHYJCwx7oI7
mazhar16823 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 4, 2023, 09:21
Default Turbulence CFD
  #3
New Member
 
anonymous
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
magnetobli is on a distinguished road
For velocity scale - you need to calc turb intensity (based on reynolds umber) , turb kinetic energy (based on intensity and bulk flow speed), dissipation rate (based on kinetic energy, intensity and Cu- assumed 0.09), take ratio of kinetic energy and dissipation gives time scale. Velocity scale is length scale (0.07 * duct width) / time scale. Equations are found after quick search online.
magnetobli is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3D CFD simulation of propeller blade - Turbulent viscosity limited to viscosity ratio Quentin_C FLUENT 1 April 4, 2017 05:32
3D CFD simulation of propeller blade - Turbulent viscosity limited to viscosity ratio Quentin_C FLUENT 0 April 4, 2017 05:18
Multiphase flow - incorrect velocity on inlet Mike_Tom CFX 6 September 29, 2016 01:27
Turbulent Boundary condition, viscosity ratio and length scale Bollonga FLUENT 80 February 16, 2013 12:06
Problem of Turbulent Viscosity Ratio Limited David Yang FLUENT 3 June 3, 2002 06:13


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 21:32.