|
[Sponsors] |
September 6, 2009, 05:04 |
3d geometry mesh generation
|
#1 |
New Member
mach
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: India
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 17 |
Sir(s),
I have a 3D diffuser - collector geometry. Using Gambit - Fluent. Having difficulty meshing - should I go by edge- face - vol sequence,or direct volume; scheme:cooper or hex core ----I'm confused.How do I validate my mesh - Is monitoring of fluxes after each refining,enough for this? Please help. And no books - or any user guide give any input on practical geometry meshing. Request advice on this too.... does it come by practice? Last edited by mach13; September 6, 2009 at 14:27. Reason: software name |
|
September 7, 2009, 02:17 |
|
#2 |
Super Moderator
Maxime Perelli
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 3,297
Rep Power: 41 |
if you attempt to mesh your volume on the fly, I assume Gambit won't mesh it properly (especially if your geometry is complex)
What kind of issues do you have with Gambit?
__________________
In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider |
|
September 7, 2009, 10:49 |
3d complex geometry meshing
|
#3 |
New Member
mach
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: India
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 17 |
Thank You Max,
Thanx for the reply. I tried Cooper Scheme and Hex Core on my diffuser - collector combo.Both are giving me errors - mainly taking up too much memory for just about 3,00,000 nodes - I assume my meshing schemes are wrong. How do I trouble shoot it, and how can I be sure of my mesh before Fluent analysis. Thanx again and really appreciate your helping all us 'idiots' on this forum- seen most of your replies to other queries. |
|
September 7, 2009, 11:19 |
|
#4 |
Super Moderator
Maxime Perelli
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 3,297
Rep Power: 41 |
memory problem has nothing to do with cooper.
So first, if you get this memory issue, then you may have to divide your domain into subvolumes and treat each subvolume one by one. (it will ask less memory) Second Cooper can only be used if your volume is Cooper-able... I mean with projection source, surround surfaces which are mappable, etc... I don't know how looks your geometry but if you want to mesh it "quick" I would use the tet-hexcore scheme.
__________________
In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider |
|
September 8, 2009, 06:19 |
3d mesh gen
|
#5 |
New Member
mach
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: India
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 17 |
Hi Max,
Thanks again. That memory problem has been sorted out - was b,coz I've been foolishly using lower interval size. I had tried Tet-hex Core also after that, but got errors regarding geometry - but the scheme is meshing part of my geometry. My geometry is a diffuser inside a collector, viz like a diverging passage inside a semicircular prism - will try sending a graphic tiff to u - if u could give ur mail ID - only if its OK with you.I will work by trial n error till I succeed, and will let you know what happened. Thanks n regards.... |
|
September 8, 2009, 08:01 |
|
#6 |
Super Moderator
Maxime Perelli
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 3,297
Rep Power: 41 |
what does gambit prompt after meshing?
__________________
In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider |
|
September 8, 2009, 13:49 |
3d complex geometry meshing
|
#7 |
New Member
mach
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: India
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 17 |
Hi Max,
Thanks.I think the problem was with default settings. I had to adjust those - tetmesh_pyramid_angle...etc. Part of my geometry I've meshed with Cooper and part with hex core. grid check looks OK.But how do I know for sure my grid is OK. My plan of action is to use the same schemes with lesser interval sizes and then compare the fluxes for grid correctness - am I right in my approach????? Regards..... |
|
September 9, 2009, 02:38 |
|
#8 |
Super Moderator
Maxime Perelli
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 3,297
Rep Power: 41 |
check the skewness of the mesh.
I take care having max below 0.9 (but some people, may have mesh with skewness below 0.8)
__________________
In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider |
|
September 9, 2009, 12:04 |
|
#9 |
New Member
mach
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: India
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 17 |
Thanks Max,
U are right. Skewness is a problem, but right now I made a very course mesh of 1.5 lakh elements - out of which 100 or so are above 0.97. I think it will reduce once I 'fine' it to 10 lakh or so...Am i right? Also this mesh is giving me negative values at my pressure outlet in FLUENT. Will fine meshing sort out this too ????? |
|
September 10, 2009, 02:43 |
|
#10 |
Super Moderator
Maxime Perelli
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 3,297
Rep Power: 41 |
lakh?
what does it mean? Skewness 0.97 is too high What kind of BC did you set at your outlet?
__________________
In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider |
|
September 10, 2009, 12:03 |
|
#11 |
New Member
mach
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: India
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 17 |
Hi Max,
Thanks again. Lakh means 100000 cells.I've given pressure inlet at inlet and pressure outlet at the outlet. I know following values:- mass flow(kg/s),pressures - both in & out,mach nos - in & out, temp - in & out. Regards. |
|
Tags |
diffuser, geometry. |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Mesh geometry over airfoil with Gambit | laith | FLUENT | 5 | March 9, 2018 02:56 |
need reference for structured mesh generation | cfduser03 | Main CFD Forum | 3 | September 7, 2009 10:58 |
New geometry in tutorial mixer2d unphysical solution for fine mesh | christinasmuda | OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD | 6 | January 16, 2009 08:11 |
ICEM - incomplete mesh generation | ralph | CFX | 0 | June 24, 2008 00:35 |
CFD Technology Issues | CFDsurvey | Main CFD Forum | 2 | July 7, 1998 01:56 |