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Old   March 27, 2018, 19:21
Question F_UDMI versus C_UDMI
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I'd like to know how different the application of F_UDMI and C_UDMI is. In DEFINE_DPM_EROSION example of the manual:

F_UDMI(f,t,AVG_DIAMETER) = (P_DIAM(p)
+ num_in_data * F_UDMI(f,t,AVG_DIAMETER))
/ (num_in_data + 1);
C_UDMI(c0,t0,AVG_DIAMETER) = F_UDMI(f,t,AVG_DIAMETER);
/* Average velocity normal to wall of particles hitting the wall:*/
F_UDMI(f,t,AVG_RADI_VELO) = (vel_ortho
+ num_in_data * F_UDMI(f,t,AVG_RADI_VELO))
/ (num_in_data + 1);
C_UDMI(c0,t0,AVG_RADI_VELO) = F_UDMI(f,t,AVG_RADI_VELO);
F_UDMI(f, t, NUM_OF_HITS) = num_in_data + 1;
C_UDMI(c0,t0,NUM_OF_HITS) = num_in_data + 1;

F_UDMI value is copied to C_UDMI. Why is that necessary?

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Old   March 28, 2018, 05:08
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F_UDMI(f,t) is the value of the UDM on a face.
C_UDMI(c,t) is the value of the UDM in a cell.

In your example, the "Average velocity normal to wall of particles hitting the wall" is calculated on wall faces (which is the most logical thing to do). For some reason unknown to me, this information also needs to be available on the cell closest to the wall, the the programmer copied this information.
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Old   March 28, 2018, 09:45
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Thanks for your response. I find this example of the manual very confusing!

While at it, I'm not able to use the DEFINE_ON_DEMAND(reset_UDM) for resting my UDM's . It gives an error.

DEFINE_ON_DEMAND(reset_UDM)
{
/* assign domain pointer with global domain */
domain = Get_Domain(1);
reset_UDM_s();
}

Does this code work for only this example? if not what changes I need to make? The way I reset my UDM's right now is to loop through all cells and make their values equal to zero:

thread_loop_c(t,d)
{
begin_c_loop(c,t)
{
for(i=0;i<7;i++)
C_UDMI(c,t,i)=0.0;
}
end_c_loop(c,t)
}
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In the example in the manual, the function "reset_UDM_s" is defined. And their definition is essentially what you are also doing.

"reset_UDM_s" is not an internal Fluent function, you have to write it (or copy it from the manual).
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Now it make sense Thanks . I have another question then. In that part of the code where "reset_UDM_s" is defined:

void reset_UDM_s(void)
{
Thread *t;
cell_t c;
face_t f;
int i;
.....


"t" is used for both cell thread and face thread. Thread_loop_f (t, domain) and Thread_loop_c(t, domain). Are they the same thing?!
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Yes, both are threads.
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If they both are the same thing, then why t0 is defined later in DEFINE_DPM_EROSION. Why not use t for both F_UDMI and C_UDMI?
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Because in DEFINE_DPM_EROSION, they want to use two threads at the same time, one for a cell and one for a face. So you need two different thread variables.

In reset_UDM_s, first the thread t is used for face threads, then for cell threads. Never for two at the same time. Still, the programmer could have used two different thread variables for this, the cost for this (memory-wise) would be negligible (or maybe even non-existent if the compiler is smart enough). It's just a choice.
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I have the following code to calculate the number of particles hitting a boundary and save it to a C_UDMI. It works fine and I can plot the C_UDMI contour

DEFINE_DPM_BC(OSU_Deposition_Model_R1,p,t,f,f_norm al,dim)
{
#if !RP_HOST

Thread *tcell=P_CELL_THREAD(p);
cell_t c=P_CELL(p);
Domain *d;
d=Get_Domain(1);

C_UDMI(c,tcell,0) += 1.;
return PATH_ABORT;
#endif
}


But if I try to save the same information in a F_UDMI. I get 0 value everywhere when I plot the user defined memory contour:


DEFINE_DPM_BC(OSU_Deposition_Model_R1,p,t,f,f_norm al,dim)
{
#if !RP_HOST


Domain *d;
d=Get_Domain(1);

// Thread *t;
// face_t f;
F_UDMI(f,t,0) += 1.;
return PATH_ABORT;
#endif

}


I saw your response to this in "define_profile and F_UDMI" thread. Is it just a bug in FLUENT or is there any way to plot F_UDMI?
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I don't know if it is a bug, but I considered it as "unexpected behavior".
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I don't know if it is a bug, but I considered it as "unexpected behavior".
Hello pakk, may I know your email address? I really want to ask you some questions about the udf used for ash deposition simulation in a radiant syngas cooler. Thanks a lot.
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Old   July 14, 2021, 14:49
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No. Why do you need my email address to ask a question??? Just so it here.
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