how to implement a Real gas law in fluent?

NAD · July 2, 2013, 04:03

Hi.

I’m simulating two-phase flow with combustion inside a closed volume. In fluent the density of the compressible gas phase is calculated by using “ideal gas law”. I want to use ‘’real gas law’’, for example Nobel-Abel law. But I don’t know how to implement this new law into fluent via UDF.
Does anyone have an idea how I can do this? </SPAN>

Regards,

yashganatra · July 2, 2013, 07:30

Go to Materials, then from Density tab select Real Gas but i don't think Nobel Abel Law is there. There are other options.
If you want to stick to Nobel Abel Law, then you will have to write a user defined function. (UDF)

Yash

NAD · July 4, 2013, 02:24

Hi Yash,
thanks for your reply. Yes I want to use Nobel-Abel Law, and I can easily write an UDF for that. But the problem is in fluent if we use a Nobel-Abel Law instead of Ideal gas law, we should change a few other parameters such as the sound speed, the entropy and some Derivatives such as the partial derivative of density with respect to pressure at constant temperature.
So the density law and the sound speed will be incorporated through the material panel. But for the others parameters I didn't find a way to incorporate them into fluent!!!!

Regards,

yashganatra · July 4, 2013, 03:14

Just go through Define Property Macro in FLUENT UDF and see if such changes can be incorporated through UDF

yashganatra · July 4, 2013, 03:16

See DEFINE PROPERTY macro in UDF and check if such changes can be incorporated via a UDF. Could you kindly tell which problem are you working on?

Yash

ndabir · November 13, 2015, 17:28

Hi NAD,

Were you able to solve your problem? If so could you please tell me how did you implemented the real gas udf in Fluent?

July 2, 2013, 04:03	how to implement a Real gas law in fluent?	#1
NAD Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 14	Hi. I’m simulating two-phase flow with combustion inside a closed volume. In fluent the density of the compressible gas phase is calculated by using “ideal gas law”. I want to use ‘’real gas law’’, for example Nobel-Abel law. But I don’t know how to implement this new law into fluent via UDF. Does anyone have an idea how I can do this? </SPAN> Regards,

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July 2, 2013, 07:30		#2
yashganatra Member Yash Ganatra Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 13	Go to Materials, then from Density tab select Real Gas but i don't think Nobel Abel Law is there. There are other options. If you want to stick to Nobel Abel Law, then you will have to write a user defined function. (UDF) Yash

July 4, 2013, 02:24		#3
NAD Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 14	Hi Yash, thanks for your reply. Yes I want to use Nobel-Abel Law, and I can easily write an UDF for that. But the problem is in fluent if we use a Nobel-Abel Law instead of Ideal gas law, we should change a few other parameters such as the sound speed, the entropy and some Derivatives such as the partial derivative of density with respect to pressure at constant temperature. So the density law and the sound speed will be incorporated through the material panel. But for the others parameters I didn't find a way to incorporate them into fluent!!!! Regards,

July 4, 2013, 03:14		#4
yashganatra Member Yash Ganatra Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 13	Just go through Define Property Macro in FLUENT UDF and see if such changes can be incorporated through UDF

July 4, 2013, 03:16		#5
yashganatra Member Yash Ganatra Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 13	See DEFINE PROPERTY macro in UDF and check if such changes can be incorporated via a UDF. Could you kindly tell which problem are you working on? Yash

November 13, 2015, 17:28		#6
ndabir Senior Member navid Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 16	Hi NAD, Were you able to solve your problem? If so could you please tell me how did you implemented the real gas udf in Fluent?