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Old   August 16, 2019, 00:17
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Hello,

I would like to know more about the future of virtual engineering: Let say tomorrow the industry will have a complete Multi-physics software with tight coupling physical effects and so it will be able to give different results (Fluid Flow, Solid deformation, Thermal effect, Radiation, Fluid-Structure Interaction, ...) in one single simulation (Live and Meshless simulation). Now, my question is : Do you think that companies will merge different departments and so for example only one person will use the software for simulating the required results?

A detailed response will be greatly appreciated.

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Hello,

I would like to know more about the future of virtual engineering: Let say tomorrow the industry will have a complete Multi-physics software with tight coupling physical effects and so it will be able to give different results (Fluid Flow, Solid deformation, Thermal effect, Radiation, Fluid-Structure Interaction, ...) in one single simulation (Live and Meshless simulation). Now, my question is : Do you think that companies will merge different departments and so for example only one person will use the software for simulating the required results?

A detailed response will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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My opinion is that would be the worst possible scenario! This is a dystopian future as it would mean that a single person is just clicking on some software options to set-up the run without actually having the correct background for analysing the different physical problems.
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Thanks for your reply.

I understand that one single person won't probably handle the understanding of the whole multiphysics results together. But, do you know in which case this kind of software will help on a multiplidisciplinary design?
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With most products becoming virtual in the future (cars, holiday trips, sex, drugs and rocknroll) we do not even need realistic simulations anymore :-)

So an AI system can do all the work and we enjoy living in the matrix.
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it will be able to give different results (Fluid Flow, Solid deformation, Thermal effect, Radiation, Fluid-Structure Interaction, ...) in one single simulation (Live and Meshless simulation).
We have software today that does all of these things (Star-CCM as an example). You can certainly merge all departments together and call it engineering and that is what is done already today. The idea is not farfetched at all, we are already there. It is already present today and companies have been doing it for years. And yes, you end up with a few people that run these simulations. If you are lucky, they are skilled and understand all the different physics; if you are not so lucky, they understand maybe one part of it and none of others; and if you are super unlucky, they understand none of it but know how to run the simulation.


The software is not the problem. The missing interface between a bunch of unrelated softwares is only a small hurdle in a team of people trying to design a competitive product.
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One thing that, I think, will always be needed in certain human activities, is responsibility. When we buy a product or a service that isn't up to the expectations, we want someone to take the responsibility for the failure. Not per se, but as the unique meaningful way to keep the other party into the track.

Now, in engineering, it is not unusual that a failure can lead to life losses. In such cases the responsibility is higher and, in most cases, regulated.

Now, as a company, you can decide whatever you want, but you need to take the responsibility for your products or services. And even if you don't, the market and the stakeholders are going to teach you a couple of things (GE and Boeing come to my mind).

I think that a single man in charge of the whole physics is against the ever increasing knowledge we have in each field and the feasibility of the approach on a large scale (how many such super scientists are out there?).

Thus, in the case of a single man job, not only you would be delivering at the capacity of that single man, but you would need a chain of responsibility that is happy with that. I'm sure that this is largely possible, but I don't think this is going to last beyond few years before the company fails.
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