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 August 18, 2009, 01:07 periodic boundary conditions #1 New Member   Ranjith Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 16 Hi, Iam trying to simulate one microorganism locomotion in a low reynolds number fluid using IBM.The microorganism is described as a sine wave.i applied periodic boundary conditions at the left and right for velocity and pressure and no gradient boundary condition at the top and bottom of the square computational domain.iam using SOR as the solver for velocity and pressure.My problem is the SOR solver for pressure is not converging because of periodic boundary condition.Can anyone suggest me how to overcome this.even i tried with by making average velocity to zero after every iteration.it also does not work.Reg.this i need help and suggestions from any one. Thanking you Sincerely,

August 24, 2009, 12:11
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 Originally Posted by mranji1 Hi, Iam trying to simulate one microorganism locomotion in a low reynolds number fluid using IBM.The microorganism is described as a sine wave.i applied periodic boundary conditions at the left and right for velocity and pressure and no gradient boundary condition at the top and bottom of the square computational domain.iam using SOR as the solver for velocity and pressure.My problem is the SOR solver for pressure is not converging because of periodic boundary condition.Can anyone suggest me how to overcome this.even i tried with by making average velocity to zero after every iteration.it also does not work.Reg.this i need help and suggestions from any one. Thanking you Sincerely,
How are the grid cells? are regular in all three dimension? or they are stretch and looks like a sheet? In this case maybe can be helpfull to have implicit solution on the streched direction.
How many cycle of SOR do you use? You need really a lot of iteration with just sor to have convergence, because sor dumps very well high frequency disturbance but not the low one, maybe you can add a multigrid solution to your sor.
Then you say that you are using the IBM. Try to plot cell by cell your divergence, maybe it is not converging in your cell closed to the immersed surface.

 August 24, 2009, 18:49 #3 Member   M. Nabi Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 16 SOR converges very slowly for pressure correction equation. I think, it is better to solve the pressure by Krylov space methods (like CG) or Multigrid. If your boundary conditions for pressure are all Neuman and periodic, you will have a singular problem. to avoid this problem, you need to fix the pressure by a constant (i.e. zero) in one point.

 August 24, 2009, 23:03 #4 New Member   Ranjith Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 16 Hi, Thanks for your valuable suggestions.Actually I modified the same problem by applying periodic boundary conditions in X and Y directions for both pressure and velocity.Iam using uniform grid system.Still Iam facing the problem of SOR convergence for pressure.Also the continuity is not satisfying.I found that the the pressure and velocities are becoming high at the 4 corner points ofthe boundary.Iam wondering how it is happening?Because we have boundary conditions there.Near the Immersed boundary there is no problem......can anyone guess what is happening and how I can overcome this problem.

August 24, 2009, 23:45
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 Originally Posted by mranji1 Hi, Still Iam facing the problem of SOR convergence for pressure.Also the continuity is not satisfying.
The Poisson eq. for pressure has exactly the role to force the continuity.
Which is the residual of your poisson solver? how many cycle are you using? if you use just sor you can require also several hundred of pressure cycle to obtain the solution

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