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Old   April 11, 2015, 14:42
Default simpleFoam 3D case: crashes after 7 cycles
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Hi,


I am beginner in the field of CFD and OpenFOAM.
I need some help or advice with my case. Basically I have used the PitzDaily default case of OpenFOAM tutorials but with a new 3D geometry instead of 2D and new boundary values of pressure and velocity.


These are the values of p, U, k and epsilon:
Code:
                       
dimensions      [0 2 -2 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform 0;  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 200;  
     }  
 

     outlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 0;  
     }  
 }
Code:
                      
dimensions      [0 1 -1 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform (0 0 0);  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform (0 0 0);  
     }  
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform (0 0 0);  
     }  
     outlet  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
 }
Code:
                        
dimensions      [0 2 -2 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform 0.375;  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            kqRWallFunction;  
         value           uniform 0.375;  
     }  
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 0.375;  
     }  
     outlet  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
 }
Code:
                        
dimensions      [0 2 -3 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform 14.855;  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            epsilonWallFunction;  
         value           uniform 14.855; 
     }     
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 14.855; 
     }  
     outlet  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
 }
When I run the case, it stop at seventh cycle of calculation and show the follow error:


Code:
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  Foam::GAMGSolver::scale(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::lduMatrix const&, Foam::FieldField<Foam::Field, double> const&, Foam::UPtrList<Foam::lduInterfaceField const> const&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#4  Foam::GAMGSolver::Vcycle(Foam::PtrList<Foam::lduMatrix::smoother> const&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::PtrList<Foam::Field<double> >&, Foam::PtrList<Foam::Field<double> >&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#5  Foam::GAMGSolver::solve(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#6  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solveSegregated(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#7  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
#8  
 in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
#9  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#10  
 in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
Any help or advice is gratefully.

by the by I would like upload a jpg file of residual values from my desktop but I don't know how do it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alvariten View Post
Hi,


I am beginner in the field of CFD and OpenFOAM.
I need some help or advice with my case. Basically I have used the PitzDaily default case of OpenFOAM tutorials but with a new 3D geometry instead of 2D and new boundary values of pressure and velocity.


These are the values of p, U, k and epsilon:
Code:
                       
dimensions      [0 2 -2 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform 0;  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 200;  
     }  
 

     outlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 0;  
     }  
 }
Code:
                      
dimensions      [0 1 -1 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform (0 0 0);  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform (0 0 0);  
     }  
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform (0 0 0);  
     }  
     outlet  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
 }
Code:
                        
dimensions      [0 2 -2 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform 0.375;  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            kqRWallFunction;  
         value           uniform 0.375;  
     }  
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 0.375;  
     }  
     outlet  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
 }
Code:
                        
dimensions      [0 2 -3 0 0 0 0];  
 

 internalField   uniform 14.855;  
 

 boundaryField  
 {  
     walls  
     {  
         type            epsilonWallFunction;  
         value           uniform 14.855; 
     }     
     inlet  
     {  
         type            fixedValue;  
         value           uniform 14.855; 
     }  
     outlet  
     {  
         type            zeroGradient;  
     }  
 }
When I run the case, it stop at seventh cycle of calculation and show the follow error:


Code:
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  Foam::GAMGSolver::scale(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::lduMatrix const&, Foam::FieldField<Foam::Field, double> const&, Foam::UPtrList<Foam::lduInterfaceField const> const&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#4  Foam::GAMGSolver::Vcycle(Foam::PtrList<Foam::lduMatrix::smoother> const&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::PtrList<Foam::Field<double> >&, Foam::PtrList<Foam::Field<double> >&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#5  Foam::GAMGSolver::solve(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#6  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solveSegregated(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#7  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
#8  
 in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
#9  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#10  
 in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
Any help or advice is gratefully.

by the by I would like upload a jpg file of residual values from my desktop but I don't know how do it.
Please post the entire log file. If it runs for seven "cycles" as you say, the issue is
either divergence or there is an error writing and output file. Based on what you posted
it appears that the latter is more likely.

Also, please post your solver settings files if they differ from the pitzDaily tutorial.
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Old   April 12, 2015, 06:06
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Here is the output log file:

Code:
alvaro@AlvaroPC:~/OpenFOAM/run/pitzDaily$ simpleFoam
/*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*\
| =========                 |                                                 |
| \\      /  F ield         | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox           |
|  \\    /   O peration     | Version:  2.3.0                                 |
|   \\  /    A nd           | Web:      www.OpenFOAM.org                      |
|    \\/     M anipulation  |                                                 |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
Build  : 2.3.0-f5222ca19ce6
Exec   : simpleFoam
Date   : Apr 12 2015
Time   : 11:44:53
Host   : "AlvaroPC"
PID    : 2859
Case   : /home/alvaro/OpenFOAM/run/pitzDaily
nProcs : 1
sigFpe : Enabling floating point exception trapping (FOAM_SIGFPE).
fileModificationChecking : Monitoring run-time modified files using timeStampMaster
allowSystemOperations : Disallowing user-supplied system call operations

// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //
Create time

Create mesh for time = 0

Reading field p

Reading field U

Reading/calculating face flux field phi

Selecting incompressible transport model Newtonian
Selecting RAS turbulence model kEpsilon
kEpsilonCoeffs
{
    Cmu             0.09;
    C1              1.44;
    C2              1.92;
    sigmaEps        1.3;
}

No finite volume options present


SIMPLE: convergence criteria
    field p     tolerance 0.01
    field U     tolerance 0.001
    field "(k|epsilon|omega)"     tolerance 0.001


Starting time loop

streamLine streamLines:
    automatic track length specified through number of sub cycles : 5

Time = 1

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 0.0384349, No Iterations 2
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 0.095593, No Iterations 1
time step continuity errors : sum local = 52.102, global = -0.56931, cumulative = -0.56931
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.988297, Final residual = 0.000247036, No Iterations 1
bounding epsilon, min: -3.70276 max: 188967 average: 41.0059
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 0.0800895, No Iterations 1
ExecutionTime = 0.32 s  ClockTime = 0 s

Time = 2

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.645571, Final residual = 0.0636477, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.443996, Final residual = 0.00986204, No Iterations 2
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.691369, Final residual = 0.0653874, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.999027, Final residual = 0.0763541, No Iterations 4
time step continuity errors : sum local = 31.7509, global = 1.89734, cumulative = 1.32803
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.695385, Final residual = 2.08712e-05, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.919585, Final residual = 0.0823362, No Iterations 2
ExecutionTime = 0.45 s  ClockTime = 0 s

Time = 3

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.440654, Final residual = 0.0427516, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.560425, Final residual = 0.0419665, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.410988, Final residual = 0.0349522, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.642045, Final residual = 0.063517, No Iterations 2
time step continuity errors : sum local = 38.5966, global = -9.32056, cumulative = -7.99253
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.224899, Final residual = 3.99216e-06, No Iterations 1
bounding epsilon, min: -13464.6 max: 7.90228e+06 average: 9149.1
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.474471, Final residual = 0.045027, No Iterations 2
ExecutionTime = 0.57 s  ClockTime = 0 s

Time = 4

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.773657, Final residual = 0.050837, No Iterations 2
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.600411, Final residual = 0.0464153, No Iterations 2
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.733712, Final residual = 0.0562857, No Iterations 2
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.840831, Final residual = 0.0582094, No Iterations 1
time step continuity errors : sum local = 321.621, global = 81.3235, cumulative = 73.3309
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.740998, Final residual = 9.77163e-05, No Iterations 1
bounding epsilon, min: -984.549 max: 8.36834e+08 average: 362259
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.949549, Final residual = 0.0942416, No Iterations 2
ExecutionTime = 0.69 s  ClockTime = 1 s

Time = 5

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.732108, Final residual = 0.0686708, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.476365, Final residual = 0.0449628, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.446049, Final residual = 0.0407226, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.840493, Final residual = 0.0792588, No Iterations 1
time step continuity errors : sum local = 234.221, global = 66.9484, cumulative = 140.279
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.228923, Final residual = 1.06908e-06, No Iterations 1
bounding epsilon, min: -3.43861e+07 max: 6.90822e+10 average: 4.3941e+07
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.452072, Final residual = 0.0196315, No Iterations 2
bounding k, min: -485.765 max: 3.29082e+06 average: 8562.43
ExecutionTime = 0.81 s  ClockTime = 1 s

Time = 6

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.278225, Final residual = 0.0234514, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.240453, Final residual = 0.0144066, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.359935, Final residual = 0.0329614, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.916368, Final residual = 0.0709018, No Iterations 1
time step continuity errors : sum local = 6564.03, global = 184.483, cumulative = 324.762
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.013258, Final residual = 0.000666225, No Iterations 1
bounding epsilon, min: -2.72697e+08 max: 1.56504e+13 average: 4.78779e+09
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.4201, Final residual = 0.0274674, No Iterations 1
bounding k, min: -40309.9 max: 1.33333e+09 average: 716884
ExecutionTime = 0.93 s  ClockTime = 1 s

Time = 7

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.0337342, Final residual = 0.00201148, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.0468805, Final residual = 0.00289706, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.0158243, Final residual = 0.000456582, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.110785, Final residual = 0.00775269, No Iterations 2
time step continuity errors : sum local = 2.54362e+14, global = 4.21581e+11, cumulative = 4.21581e+11
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 0.0349246, No Iterations 3
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 0.0851641, No Iterations 1
ExecutionTime = 1.05 s  ClockTime = 1 s

Time = 8

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.515451, Final residual = 0.0207056, No Iterations 2
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.722785, Final residual = 0.0488147, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.818181, Final residual = 0.0520304, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.999684, Final residual = 0.0983319, No Iterations 5
time step continuity errors : sum local = 2.51385e+14, global = -2.99544e+12, cumulative = -2.57385e+12
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.0130558, Final residual = 8.86302e-16, No Iterations 1
bounding epsilon, min: -1.21842e+35 max: 4.92931e+40 average: 8.18944e+36
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.5328, Final residual = 0.0426716, No Iterations 1
bounding k, min: -4.2741e+20 max: 5.74832e+36 average: 1.05138e+33
ExecutionTime = 1.2 s  ClockTime = 1 s

Time = 9

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.0524346, Final residual = 0.00248475, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.22741, Final residual = 0.0195766, No Iterations 1
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.010153, Final residual = 0.000734547, No Iterations 1
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.00514794, Final residual = 0.000331134, No Iterations 2
time step continuity errors : sum local = 3.5522e+33, global = -1.27833e+31, cumulative = -1.27833e+31
smoothSolver:  Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 0.0524548, No Iterations 29
smoothSolver:  Solving for k, Initial residual = 3.38676e-07, Final residual = 3.38676e-07, No Iterations 0
ExecutionTime = 1.35 s  ClockTime = 1 s

Time = 10

smoothSolver:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.646186, Final residual = 0.0522116, No Iterations 40
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.56795, Final residual = 0.0301241, No Iterations 41
smoothSolver:  Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.529712, Final residual = 0.0287035, No Iterations 38
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  Foam::GAMGSolver::scale(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::lduMatrix const&, Foam::FieldField<Foam::Field, double> const&, Foam::UPtrList<Foam::lduInterfaceField const> const&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#4  Foam::GAMGSolver::Vcycle(Foam::PtrList<Foam::lduMatrix::smoother> const&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::PtrList<Foam::Field<double> >&, Foam::PtrList<Foam::Field<double> >&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#5  Foam::GAMGSolver::solve(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#6  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solveSegregated(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#7  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
#8  
 in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
#9  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#10  
 in "/opt/openfoam230/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam"
Floating point exception (core dumped)
alvaro@AlvaroPC:~/OpenFOAM/run/pitzDaily$

And when you say solver settings files you mean ControlDict file, isn't it? Here is, but I didn't modified anything

Code:
FoamFile
{
    version     2.0;
    format      ascii;
    class       dictionary;
    location    "system";
    object      controlDict;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //

application     simpleFoam;

startFrom       latestTime;

startTime       0;

stopAt          endTime;

endTime         1000;

deltaT          1;

writeControl    timeStep;

writeInterval   50;

purgeWrite      0;

writeFormat     ascii;

writePrecision  6;

writeCompression off;

timeFormat      general;

timePrecision   6;

runTimeModifiable true;

functions
{
    streamLines
    {
        type            streamLine;

        // Where to load it from (if not already in solver)
        functionObjectLibs ("libfieldFunctionObjects.so");

        // Output every
        outputControl   outputTime;
        // outputInterval 10;

        setFormat       vtk; //gnuplot;//xmgr;//raw;//jplot;//csv;//ensight;

        // Velocity field to use for tracking.
        UName U;

        // Tracked forwards (+U) or backwards (-U)
        trackForward    true;

        // Names of fields to sample. Should contain above velocity field!
        fields (p k U);

        // Steps particles can travel before being removed
        lifeTime        10000;

        // Number of steps per cell (estimate). Set to 1 to disable subcycling.
        nSubCycle 5;

        // Cloud name to use
        cloudName       particleTracks;

        // Seeding method. See the sampleSets in sampleDict.
        seedSampleSet   uniform;  //cloud;//triSurfaceMeshPointSet;

        uniformCoeffs
        {
            type        uniform;
            axis        x;  //distance;

            start       (-0.0205 0.001  0.00001);
            end         (-0.0205 0.0251 0.00001);
            nPoints     10;
        }
    }
}
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Your solution is diverging.

I would suggest running checkMesh to look for mesh issues.

Also, I don't believe you can specify static pressure on both the inlet
and the outlet. I would change the inlet to total pressure.
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Referred to the mesh, not seen nothing unusual, except some non-orthogonal faces:

Code:
alvaro@AlvaroPC:~/OpenFOAM/run/pitzDaily2$ checkMesh
/*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*\
| =========                 |                                                 |
| \\      /  F ield         | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox           |
|  \\    /   O peration     | Version:  2.3.0                                 |
|   \\  /    A nd           | Web:      www.OpenFOAM.org                      |
|    \\/     M anipulation  |                                                 |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
Build  : 2.3.0-f5222ca19ce6
Exec   : checkMesh
Date   : Apr 12 2015
Time   : 20:11:08
Host   : "AlvaroPC"
PID    : 3402
Case   : /home/alvaro/OpenFOAM/run/pitzDaily2
nProcs : 1
sigFpe : Enabling floating point exception trapping (FOAM_SIGFPE).
fileModificationChecking : Monitoring run-time modified files using timeStampMaster
allowSystemOperations : Disallowing user-supplied system call operations

// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //
Create time

Create polyMesh for time = 0

Time = 0

Mesh stats
    points:           5865
    faces:            47633
    internal faces:   39075
    cells:            21677
    faces per cell:   4
    boundary patches: 3
    point zones:      0
    face zones:       0
    cell zones:       0

Overall number of cells of each type:
    hexahedra:     0
    prisms:        0
    wedges:        0
    pyramids:      0
    tet wedges:    0
    tetrahedra:    21677
    polyhedra:     0

Checking topology...
    Boundary definition OK.
    Cell to face addressing OK.
    Point usage OK.
    Upper triangular ordering OK.
    Face vertices OK.
    Number of regions: 1 (OK).

Checking patch topology for multiply connected surfaces...
    Patch               Faces    Points   Surface topology                  
    walls               8313     4219     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
    inlet               84       84       ok (non-closed singly connected)  
    outlet              161      101      ok (non-closed singly connected)  

Checking geometry...
    Overall domain bounding box (-1.66857 -0.201602 -1.67331) (2.51658 2.87607 1.67331)
    Mesh (non-empty, non-wedge) directions (1 1 1)
    Mesh (non-empty) directions (1 1 1)
    Boundary openness (-1.95172e-16 1.45104e-16 -1.42852e-16) OK.
    Max cell openness = 1.73452e-15 OK.
    Max aspect ratio = 348.834 OK.
    Minimum face area = 2.90131e-08. Maximum face area = 0.0227372.  Face area magnitudes OK.
    Min volume = 2.83827e-11. Max volume = 0.00110686.  Total volume = 2.07994.  Cell volumes OK.
    Mesh non-orthogonality Max: 89.4051 average: 22.6028
   *Number of severely non-orthogonal (> 70 degrees) faces: 57.
    Non-orthogonality check OK.
  <<Writing 57 non-orthogonal faces to set nonOrthoFaces
    Face pyramids OK.
    Max skewness = 1.82439 OK.
    Coupled point location match (average 0) OK.

Mesh OK.

End
And about the initial condition for pressure, how I change the condition to total pressure?

The case that I am trying to solver is a simulation of a 3D nozzle that inject diesel fuel to cylinder. The velocity is unknown, but at the entry and exit is depreciated. All that is known is the inlet and outlet pressure. The real values are 350 bar at inlet and 1 bar at outlet. How would you set the BC's for this case?

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Here is an example for setting a totalPressure boundary (in p file):

Code:
 injInlet
    {
        type            totalPressure;
        U               U;
        gamma           1.0;
        p0              uniform 111.111;

    }
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Hi,

I tried everything you advised me, but the problem still appearing. Even so, thank you for answers and advice me. Now I am going to try make a new mesh completly structured, without non-orthogonal faces. I'll let you know if it works.

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Hi,

I tried everything you advised me, but the problem still appearing. Even so, thank you for answers and advice me. Now I am going to try make a new mesh completly structured, without non-orthogonal faces. I'll let you know if it works.

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Hello Alvaro,

did you try with a new mesh? Did it work?

Best regards,

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Hello Alvaro,

did you try with a new mesh? Did it work?
Hi Kate,
I tried it with a new mesh better quality, but still doesn't work.. and I don't know why
Now I'm working with cavitatingFoam tutorial "throttle" and the same mesh and the same condition. For now the results look good for a pressure driven flow and the cavitation phenomena.

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Hi Kate,
I tried it with a new mesh better quality, but still doesn't work.. and I don't know why
Now I'm working with cavitatingFoam tutorial "throttle" and the same mesh and the same condition. For now the results look good for a pressure driven flow and the cavitation phenomena.

Regards
Hi Alvaro,

did your new mesh pass all the tests from checkMesh? Another topic, I am not familiar with your type of BCs (pressure assigned at inlet AND outlet). I would look at this again. Also, I would recommend intitializing your case with turbulence switched off.

Regarding your work with the "throttle" settings. You said it looks good. Congratulations! Can you give us a bit more information on this? Does it converge, is your problem solved then?

Best regards,

Kate

P.S.: When tas38 asked about the solver settings, I think he meant the fvSolution file in the system directory.
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Quote:
Hi Alvaro,

did your new mesh pass all the tests from checkMesh? Another topic, I am not familiar with your type of BCs (pressure assigned at inlet AND outlet). I would look at this again. Also, I would recommend intitializing your case with turbulence switched off.

Regarding your work with the "throttle" settings. You said it looks good. Congratulations! Can you give us a bit more information on this? Does it converge, is your problem solved then?

Best regards,

Kate

P.S.: When tas38 asked about the solver settings, I think he meant the fvSolution file in the system directory.
Hi Kate,
Sorry for my late reply.

Yes, the new mesh pass checkMesh without problem (it's a very simple geometry of a nozzle made with blockMesh)

Regarding the pressure and velocity condition:
0/p
Code:
dimensions      [1 -1 -2 0 0];

internalField   uniform 1e5;

boundaryField
{
    frontback
    {
        type            empty;
    }
    inlet
    {
        type            totalPressure;
        U               U;
        phi             phiv;
        rho             rho;
        psi             none;
        gamma           1;
        p0              uniform 150e5;
    }

    outlet
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform 1e5;
    }

    nozzleWall
    {
        type            zeroGradient;
    }
    fixedWall
    {
        type            zeroGradient;
    }
}
0/U
Code:
{
    frontback
    {
        type            empty;
    }
    inlet
    {
        type            pressureInletOutletVelocity;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }

    outlet
    {
        type            inletOutlet;
        inletValue      uniform (0 0 0);
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }

    nozzleWall
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }
    fixedWall
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }
}
There is a simple tutorial TJuntion where you can see this kind of BC's.

About the cavitating problem, I still have problem with convergence. The case crash a few minutes to start. The residuals look fine, the only strange thing I see is highlighted in black below.

Code:
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 3.65416e-05, Final residual = 4.73255e-11, No Iterations 1
max-min rho: 72391.2 -6.84908
max-min gamma: 1 0
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.00712085, Final residual = 1.85145e-11, No Iterations 2
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.00714144, Final residual = 1.855e-11, No Iterations 2
max(U) 1.53422e+65
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 1.99619e-05, Final residual = 3.99114e-18, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75485e+126
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75485e+126
max(U) 1.53422e+65
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 5.07469e-05, Final residual = 5.54335e-18, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75478e+126
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75478e+126
max(U) 1.53422e+65
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for omega, Initial residual = 0.0591393, Final residual = 2.52565e-12, No Iterations 2
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  Foam::PBiCG::solve(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#4  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#5  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve() in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/cavitatingFoam"
#6  Foam::incompressible::RASModels::kOmegaSST::correct() in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libincompressibleRASModels.so"
#7  
 in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/cavitatingFoam"
#8  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#9  
 in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/cavitatingFoam"
Floating point exception (core dumped)
What do these terms mean exactly? What could be cause of this?

I show the fvSolution settings if the problem was there:
Code:
solvers
{
    rho
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0.1;
    }

    rhoFinal
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0;
    }


    p
    {
        solver          GAMG;
        tolerance       0;
        relTol          0.1;
        smoother        GaussSeidel;
        nPreSweeps      0;
        nPostSweeps     2;
        cacheAgglomeration true;
        nCellsInCoarsestLevel 10;
        agglomerator    faceAreaPair;
        mergeLevels     1;
    }

    pFinal
    {
        $p;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0;
    }

    "(U|k|omega)"
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0.1;
    }

    "(U|k|omega)Final"
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0;
    }
}

PIMPLE
{
    nCorrectors     3;
    nNonOrthogonalCorrectors 0;
}
Regarding turbulence models, I tested with laminar, RAS, and LES model but the same problem appear in all cases.

Thanks and regards,
Alvaro.
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Hi alvariten,

I notice something strange about your boundary condition. Even before being interested in the mesh, or the laminar/turbulent scheme.

You impose a pressure at the inlet, but you are saying that the velocity is fixed at (0 0 0). But isn't your goal to let fluid go through the inlet ?

If so, the velocity cannot be an uniform fixed value (0 0 0) and I would recommand you to change the U field for the inlet to type zeroGradient;
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Hi Al_th,

I'm still learning in field of OpenFoam so I'm grateful that you advice me. What you propose makes sense. I have tried with zeroGradient at inlet and outlet but the error still appears.

Yes, my goal is impose varying pressure values over time (with uniformTotalPressrue) at inlet and fixed values at outlet with the purpose to get the mass flow through the output. The velocity is unknown so the best option is to set type zeroGradient.

I have no idea where is the mistake but I am struck by the warning message "FOAM Warning : From function Time:perator++()". This is related to the Co number and it means the time precision is increase while deltaT become too small, isn't it? Could be this the reason of the problem?

Code:
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.000137488, Final residual = 4.00266e-17, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 2.17415e+09 -704709
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 2.17415e+09 29.1545
max(U) 1.17523e+106
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.000160614, Final residual = 4.01508e-17, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 2.17415e+09 -773613
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 2.17415e+09 29.1545
max(U) 1.17523e+106
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.000135725, Final residual = 4.05313e-17, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 2.17415e+09 -878458
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 2.17415e+09 29.1545
max(U) 1.17523e+106
ExecutionTime = 372.39 s  ClockTime = 446 s

phiv Courant Number mean: 6.053e-06 max: 0.550988 acoustic max: 3.23685e-103
deltaT = 1.86875e-112
--> FOAM Warning : 
    From function Time::operator++()
    in file db/Time/Time.C at line 1010
    Increased the timePrecision from 1339 to 1340 to distinguish between timeNames at time 3.95078e-06
Time = 3.950780097946136277327518204760536946196225471794605255126953125e-06

DILUPBiCG:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 3.68513e-05, Final residual = 1.19211e-09, No Iterations 2
max-min rho: 3784.75 -1.81282
max-min gamma: 1 0
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.00088791, Final residual = 2.56648e-11, No Iterations 3
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPO
I have changed (decreased) the maxCo and max AcousticCo but the only I've done with this is to extend the time until crash...

What else I can do?

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By the by, I would like to change the title of the thread because it no longer reflects well the topic to solve but I don't know how...
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Dear alvariten,

Don't worry, I'm also an Openfoam newbie (2/3 months only)

Yes, what you are saying is true, it looks like your Courant number blows up, and that the dynamic delatT (I am assuming you are using adjustTimeStep in your controlDict file) is getting smaller and smaller in order to respect your maxCo condition.

From what I've learned, if the Courant number blows up, it is not always (in my case, pretty much never) a problem of actually setting up deltaT. Especially when you use adjustTimeStep that is keeping an ideal deltaT at all time (until it blows up).

What I am suggesting here, is that when the problem happens, it causes the Courant number to blow up, but the problem itself is caused by something else (non physical boundary conditions have a nice tendency to make everything crash pretty fast).

Could you attach your case to the post so we can try it out ?

PS : In the meantime, what you could do is to try to reduce the pressure gradient (set the inlet pressure to something really close to the outlet, see if it crashes or of the solution seems to converge, and increase it gradually.

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Dear Al_th,

Here I show more details about the case:

- Geometry mesh (2D -> 2 input and 1 output)



(I've changed mesh)

- checkMesh log:

Code:
Create time

Create polyMesh for time = 0

Time = 0

Mesh stats
    points:           57460
    internal points:  0
    faces:            112969
    internal faces:   55641
    cells:            28080
    boundary patches: 5
    point zones:      0
    face zones:       0
    cell zones:       0

Overall number of cells of each type:
    hexahedra:     27958
    prisms:        0
    wedges:        0
    pyramids:      0
    tet wedges:    0
    tetrahedra:    0
    polyhedra:     122

Checking topology...
    Boundary definition OK.
    Cell to face addressing OK.
    Point usage OK.
    Upper triangular ordering OK.
    Face vertices OK.
    Number of regions: 1 (OK).

Checking patch topology for multiply connected surfaces ...
    Patch               Faces    Points   Surface topology                  
    inlet               60       124      ok (non-closed singly connected)  
    outlet              72       146      ok (non-closed singly connected)  
    nozzleWall          218      438      ok (non-closed singly connected)  
    fixedWall           818      1640     ok (non-closed singly connected)  
    frontback           56160    57460    ok (non-closed singly connected)  

Checking geometry...
    Overall domain bounding box (-0.00081733 0 -1e-05) (0.00081733 0.00202762 1e-05)
    Mesh (non-empty, non-wedge) directions (1 1 0)
    Mesh (non-empty) directions (1 1 0)
    All edges aligned with or perpendicular to non-empty directions.
    Boundary openness (-4.75227e-18 2.00089e-17 2.02558e-15) OK.
    Max cell openness = 5.78434e-16 OK.
    Max aspect ratio = 7.27553 OK.
    Minumum face area = 1.38739e-12. Maximum face area = 7.66506e-10.  Face area magnitudes OK.
    Min volume = 2.77478e-17. Max volume = 1.53301e-14.  Total volume = 1.8426e-11.  Cell volumes OK.
    Mesh non-orthogonality Max: 47.2926 average: 12.1634
    Non-orthogonality check OK.
    Face pyramids OK.
    Max skewness = 3.41278 OK.
    Coupled point location match (average 0) OK.

Mesh OK.

End
- Solver output:

cavitatingFoam log file


- Numerical settings:

controlDict

fvScheme

fvSolution


- BC's from 0 folder:
p

pinlet file
Code:
(
    (0         3410000)
    (0.00042  18130000)
);
U

(the case run in laminar model, but these are the set values for LESModel)

k

nuSgs

And it's all I think. If I have leave something, let me know.

Thanks for the interest.

Regards.



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Hi Kate,
Sorry for my late reply.

Yes, the new mesh pass checkMesh without problem (it's a very simple geometry of a nozzle made with blockMesh)

Regarding the pressure and velocity condition:
0/p
Code:
dimensions      [1 -1 -2 0 0];

internalField   uniform 1e5;

boundaryField
{
    frontback
    {
        type            empty;
    }
    inlet
    {
        type            totalPressure;
        U               U;
        phi             phiv;
        rho             rho;
        psi             none;
        gamma           1;
        p0              uniform 150e5;
    }

    outlet
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform 1e5;
    }

    nozzleWall
    {
        type            zeroGradient;
    }
    fixedWall
    {
        type            zeroGradient;
    }
}
0/U
Code:
{
    frontback
    {
        type            empty;
    }
    inlet
    {
        type            pressureInletOutletVelocity;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }

    outlet
    {
        type            inletOutlet;
        inletValue      uniform (0 0 0);
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }

    nozzleWall
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }
    fixedWall
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }
}
There is a simple tutorial TJuntion where you can see this kind of BC's.

About the cavitating problem, I still have problem with convergence. The case crash a few minutes to start. The residuals look fine, the only strange thing I see is highlighted in black below.

Code:
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 3.65416e-05, Final residual = 4.73255e-11, No Iterations 1
max-min rho: 72391.2 -6.84908
max-min gamma: 1 0
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.00712085, Final residual = 1.85145e-11, No Iterations 2
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.00714144, Final residual = 1.855e-11, No Iterations 2
max(U) 1.53422e+65
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 1.99619e-05, Final residual = 3.99114e-18, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75485e+126
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75485e+126
max(U) 1.53422e+65
GAMG:  Solving for p, Initial residual = 5.07469e-05, Final residual = 5.54335e-18, No Iterations 1
Predicted p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75478e+126
max-min gamma: 1 0
Phase-change corrected p max-min : 4.9197e+10 -9.75478e+126
max(U) 1.53422e+65
DILUPBiCG:  Solving for omega, Initial residual = 0.0591393, Final residual = 2.52565e-12, No Iterations 2
#0  Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#1  Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#2   in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#3  Foam::PBiCG::solve(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::Field<double> const&, unsigned char) const in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so"
#4  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve(Foam::dictionary const&) in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libfiniteVolume.so"
#5  Foam::fvMatrix<double>::solve() in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/cavitatingFoam"
#6  Foam::incompressible::RASModels::kOmegaSST::correct() in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libincompressibleRASModels.so"
#7  
 in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/cavitatingFoam"
#8  __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
#9  
 in "/opt/openfoam211/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/cavitatingFoam"
Floating point exception (core dumped)
What do these terms mean exactly? What could be cause of this?

I show the fvSolution settings if the problem was there:
Code:
solvers
{
    rho
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0.1;
    }

    rhoFinal
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0;
    }


    p
    {
        solver          GAMG;
        tolerance       0;
        relTol          0.1;
        smoother        GaussSeidel;
        nPreSweeps      0;
        nPostSweeps     2;
        cacheAgglomeration true;
        nCellsInCoarsestLevel 10;
        agglomerator    faceAreaPair;
        mergeLevels     1;
    }

    pFinal
    {
        $p;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0;
    }

    "(U|k|omega)"
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0.1;
    }

    "(U|k|omega)Final"
    {
        solver          PBiCG;
        preconditioner  DILU;
        tolerance       1e-08;
        relTol          0;
    }
}

PIMPLE
{
    nCorrectors     3;
    nNonOrthogonalCorrectors 0;
}
Regarding turbulence models, I tested with laminar, RAS, and LES model but the same problem appear in all cases.

Thanks and regards,
Alvaro.
Hi Alvaro,

I am afraid I cannot help you here. Nethertheless I have two remarks:

1) I think the max-min rho etc. outputs are no problem per se. But regarding the values I can't judge them because I'm not familiar with these types of simulations.

2) I would try to run the calculation with turbulence turned off. This way you can be sure the problem's not turbulence related.

Keep us updated,

Kate
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Dear Alvariten.

I do not see anything unusual in what you gave me (Note that in your last post, half your links were pointing on the controlDict file !)

Could you upload the full case so I can investigate ?
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Dear Alvariten.

I do not see anything unusual in what you gave me (Note that in your last post, half your links were pointing on the controlDict file !)

Could you upload the full case so I can investigate ?
Ops... it's true, sorry. I should check the links before post it.

I've fixed it!

PD: I would like to change the main thread title (to "Nozzle 2D cavitatingFoam divergence" ) I think it's the right thing and it describes current topic better. But I don't find the way to do it. Is it possible to change by myself or is an Administrator/Moderator who has to do it?

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Dear Alvariten,

How did you fixed your divergence problem.. could you please explain.. I am facing similar issues.

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