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June 22, 2020, 14:51 |
Why do we need to specify k omega on wall surface by using komega sst model
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Hui Zhang
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Hi foamers,
I am a fresh guy in openfoam. Recently, i started with flow past cylinder. And when I set the parameters of k and omega for the inlet and wall surface, some confusions came into my mind. why we need to set wall surface omega and k? They should be calculated by openfoam. Also, for the pressure boundary condition, near wall, I set zerogradient by following the tutorials, but for stagnation point, there is a nonzero gradient near wall surface. I do not understand, can you guys help me explain? Thank you a lot. |
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June 25, 2020, 09:00 |
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can you share your 0-dict files?
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June 29, 2020, 12:55 |
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Thanks for your reply!
The following is my 0-dict files PHP Code:
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June 30, 2020, 07:01 |
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at walls you can use wall function from the turbulence models:
for k for example you can use: wallName { type kqRWallFunction; value $internalField } there are also wall functions available for epsilon or nut ... check out this document: http://www.tfd.chalmers.se/~hani/kur...nfoamFinal.pdf |
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June 30, 2020, 08:23 |
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Hi Hui,
Just like for the other transport equations, you will need to specify boundary conditions for the k and omega. If you read the original papers by Menter et al, they also discuss about the boundary conditions. Best, Mikko |
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June 30, 2020, 11:18 |
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But for wall functions, we still need to specify a value for wall surface. Can you explain why the fixed valued is used, can we calculated it (I mean openfoam calculated it by some equations)? |
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June 30, 2020, 11:21 |
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Could you send the link or website to download this paper? best, Hui |
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July 1, 2020, 06:05 |
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Hi Hui,
For instance, this paper describes the boundary conditions. If you are looking which model exactly OpenFOAM uses then have a look at the comments in the kOmegaSST header file . |
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July 1, 2020, 10:21 |
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for my case, i did conduct some test, to see how dependent my results would be with regards to initial values of turbulence properties. the result is, that the turbulence values will adjust themselves to correct values, if the time step initially is small enough. |
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