[ANSYS Meshing] When will Ansys Meshing have the capabilities of ICEM CFD?

JuPa · June 3, 2015, 07:04

Does anyone in the know have an idea of when Ansys Meshing will have the full capabilities of ICEM CFD?

Thanks

vasava · June 12, 2015, 05:12

I think it will be a long time before Ansys will stop developing either of the meshing software. However (this I heard at a recent Ansys seminar) now users don't have to pay for both the meshing software. If you have a valid license for one, the same license should work for the other as well.

FJSJ · June 12, 2015, 09:03

That's true Paritov. I have been recently in a Regional User Conference and they said the same thing. But I think you need to have at least 16.1 release. I can imagine this is part of the evolution to ANSYS AIM...

JuPa · June 16, 2015, 11:03

Thanks for the heads up.

I like the user interface of Ansys Meshing but it's not as powerful as ICEM.

ronaldalau · June 16, 2015, 14:55

I just now installed ICEM 16.1 and it didn't run due to lack of ICEM license.

JuPa · June 17, 2015, 14:02

Do you have the correct license server version installed, and is the license pointing to the correct address?

nvarma · June 17, 2015, 17:51

as a gambit and ansys mesher user, can you tell me what capabilities icem has apart from these two?

I find the blocking to be extremely time consuming and tedious for complex 3d geometries.

JuPa · June 18, 2015, 04:13

I can't talk about Gambit - I don't use it. It's a retired software now isn't it?

Regarding Ansys Meshing vs ICEM:

In Ansys Meshing if you want a structured hexahedral mesh, you need to decompose your geometry first in Ansys Design Modeler - this is tedious.

In ICEM you can "block" certain regions of your geometry without decomposing the geometry in Design Modeler. This means you can quickly make structured hexahedral portions in areas you desire, and then back fill the rest with tet cells if you so wish.

In ICEM there are more controls over the cells and the way they are computed too.

I use Ansys Meshing quite a lot - but it's no ICEM.

ronaldalau · June 18, 2015, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicochetJ

Do you have the correct license server version installed, and is the license pointing to the correct address?

Yes. Version 16.1, and everything else works fine.

R.

nvarma · June 19, 2015, 17:08

thanks.

So whole blocking, don't you end up doing the same amount of work required to slice the geometry into sweepable blocks on workbench?

I really hope they would make the multizone usable. It's utterly useless in its current shape.

Gambit allows much more flexible sizing, mesh sweeping and abolsutely full control on the mesh. But it's discontinued...

workbench mesher however is incredibly time consuming to cfd meshes, no control except for some edge sizing which is again useless unless it's a swept mesh. I really don't like the tet meshing algorithm of wb.

I have a lot of experience on both gambit and wb mesher but little in icem.

but from how I used icem, I felt like it would be a pain for 3d geometries, I mean blocking is not straight forward and for complex 3d geometries, blocking could be a nightmare right?

June 3, 2015, 07:04	When will Ansys Meshing have the capabilities of ICEM CFD?	#1
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June 12, 2015, 05:12		#2
vasava Senior Member Paritosh Vasava Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lappeenranta, Finland Posts: 732 Rep Power: 22	I think it will be a long time before Ansys will stop developing either of the meshing software. However (this I heard at a recent Ansys seminar) now users don't have to pay for both the meshing software. If you have a valid license for one, the same license should work for the other as well.

June 12, 2015, 09:03		#3
FJSJ Senior Member Javi Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 276 Rep Power: 16	That's true Paritov. I have been recently in a Regional User Conference and they said the same thing. But I think you need to have at least 16.1 release. I can imagine this is part of the evolution to ANSYS AIM...

June 16, 2015, 11:03		#4
JuPa Senior Member Mr CFD Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Britain Posts: 361 Rep Power: 14	Thanks for the heads up. I like the user interface of Ansys Meshing but it's not as powerful as ICEM.

June 17, 2015, 14:02		#6
JuPa Senior Member Mr CFD Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Britain Posts: 361 Rep Power: 14	Do you have the correct license server version installed, and is the license pointing to the correct address?

June 17, 2015, 17:51		#7
nvarma Senior Member nm Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 13	as a gambit and ansys mesher user, can you tell me what capabilities icem has apart from these two? I find the blocking to be extremely time consuming and tedious for complex 3d geometries.

June 18, 2015, 04:13		#8
JuPa Senior Member Mr CFD Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Britain Posts: 361 Rep Power: 14	I can't talk about Gambit - I don't use it. It's a retired software now isn't it? Regarding Ansys Meshing vs ICEM: In Ansys Meshing if you want a structured hexahedral mesh, you need to decompose your geometry first in Ansys Design Modeler - this is tedious. In ICEM you can "block" certain regions of your geometry without decomposing the geometry in Design Modeler. This means you can quickly make structured hexahedral portions in areas you desire, and then back fill the rest with tet cells if you so wish. In ICEM there are more controls over the cells and the way they are computed too. I use Ansys Meshing quite a lot - but it's no ICEM.

June 19, 2015, 17:08		#10
nvarma Senior Member nm Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 13	thanks. So whole blocking, don't you end up doing the same amount of work required to slice the geometry into sweepable blocks on workbench? I really hope they would make the multizone usable. It's utterly useless in its current shape. Gambit allows much more flexible sizing, mesh sweeping and abolsutely full control on the mesh. But it's discontinued... workbench mesher however is incredibly time consuming to cfd meshes, no control except for some edge sizing which is again useless unless it's a swept mesh. I really don't like the tet meshing algorithm of wb. I have a lot of experience on both gambit and wb mesher but little in icem. but from how I used icem, I felt like it would be a pain for 3d geometries, I mean blocking is not straight forward and for complex 3d geometries, blocking could be a nightmare right?