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Old   September 10, 2015, 09:46
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Hi guys,

I'm teaching myself some ICEM meshing and after doing most of the tutorials, I'm getting the idea of how it works. For a bigger project, I would like to mesh two tubes/cynlinders with a chamfer between them. The bigger one will later be an inlet/outlet.

Picture 0 shows the blocks before the vertex association:


Picture 1 shows my blocking and vertex/curve association:


Picture 2 shows my blocking after applying Ogrid:


Picture 3 shows my completed mesh


The problem is obviously that either Ogrid cannot split my blocking of both tubes at once, or I cannot find the right options to set it up correctly.

1) Do I have to apply the Ogrid split for each of the tubes individually?
2) Which faces do I have to select for the Ogrid? Right now, I am selecting all flat surfaces (top and bottom, not the cylinder surfaces).
3) Do I have to set the initial associations or blocking differently?
4) Regarding the first picture I posted: Is there a way how to merge the front faces of the bigger tube so that Ogrid doesn't split the bigger tube in a weird way?

Of course I can provide more screenshots or information if needed.

Thanks for your advices.

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Maxim

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Hi guys,

I'm teaching myself some ICEM meshing and after doing most of the tutorials, I'm getting the idea of how it works. For a bigger project, I would like to mesh two tubes with a cone which will later be an inlet/outlet.

Picture 0 shows the blocks before the vertex association:


Picture 1 shows my blocking and vertex/curve association:

Picture 2 shows my blocking after applying Ogrid:

Picture 3 shows my completed mesh

The problem is obviously that either Ogrid cannot split my blocking of both tubes at once, or I cannot find the right options to set it up correctly.

1) Do I have to apply the Ogrid split for each of the tubes individually?
2) Which faces do I have to select for the Ogrid? Right now, I am selecting all flat surfaces (top and bottom, not the cylinder surfaces).
3) Do I have to set the initial associations or blocking differently?
4) Regarding the first picture I posted: Is there a way how to merge the front faces of the bigger tube so that Ogrid doesn't split the bigger tube in a weird way?

Of course I can provide more screenshots or information if needed.

Thanks for your advices.

Best regards,
Maxim
One of possible ways:
1. Make block for big cylinder.
2. Make o-grid passing through circular faces.
3. Extrude central face of o-grid to make block for small cylinder.
4. Make o-grid passing through small and big circular faces.
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Hi guys,

I'm teaching myself some ICEM meshing and after doing most of the tutorials, I'm getting the idea of how it works. For a bigger project, I would like to mesh two tubes with a cone which will later be an inlet/outlet.

Picture 0 shows the blocks before the vertex association:


Picture 1 shows my blocking and vertex/curve association:


Picture 2 shows my blocking after applying Ogrid:


Picture 3 shows my completed mesh


The problem is obviously that either Ogrid cannot split my blocking of both tubes at once, or I cannot find the right options to set it up correctly.

1) Do I have to apply the Ogrid split for each of the tubes individually?
2) Which faces do I have to select for the Ogrid? Right now, I am selecting all flat surfaces (top and bottom, not the cylinder surfaces).
3) Do I have to set the initial associations or blocking differently?
4) Regarding the first picture I posted: Is there a way how to merge the front faces of the bigger tube so that Ogrid doesn't split the bigger tube in a weird way?

Of course I can provide more screenshots or information if needed.

Thanks for your advices.

Best regards,
Maxim
Hi!
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associated files regarding that pic are:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Y...ew?usp=sharing
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Thank you two for your answers.
I was trying to make to top-down method going to work but extruding a block from an Ogrid face is really helpful in this case!

The difficult part though is the chamfer between the two cylinders. I just took it as a third cylinder and extruded the face again. So far so good. Now I'm trying to fix those cells around the chamfer with very little angles.
Is there an easy way to model chamfers in ICEM?

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Thank you two for your answers. I will try to make two Ogrids - one for each cylinder.
The difficult part though will be the chamfer between the two cylinders. I guess I will have to model that like another cylinder? So three Ogrids?
2 o-grids, for ex.:
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thank you again Antanas, that worked great so far.
My chamfer looks like that at the moment:


which gives me cells with bad angles:


Can I correct that with cell size settings etc or do I have to set up my Ogrid differently in the first place?

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I merged the blocks of the chamfer like this:

and now the bad angle cells are gone! Woot woot.

Now onto mesh refinement
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