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 November 3, 2001, 05:50 Transient flow #1 omondi Guest   Posts: n/a Hi CFX Users, I use CFX4.4 to model flow in a stirred tank. I have chosen fixed time step selected such that there is one time step per cell. However, when i run the solver, it keeps loosing information at every time step. Convergence occur only within one time step then shoots up again. it is a problem similar to that of Keny(Posted as Unmatched boundary). Any body with an idea? omondi

 November 5, 2001, 14:59 Re: Transient flow #2 Ribeiro Guest   Posts: n/a Omondi What you mean "one time step per cell"? Ribeiro

 November 6, 2001, 03:12 Re: Transient flow #3 omondi Guest   Posts: n/a Ribiero, this is the time one node of the inner bolck (solid 1) takes to move from one node of the outer block (solid2) to the next node of the same solid2. hope this answers your question, if not, please just shout again. omondi

 November 6, 2001, 07:15 Re: Transient flow #4 Herve Guest   Posts: n/a How many ietrations per time step are you using? If you use multiple iterations per time step, then you should see a series of "spikes" coming down showing that convergence is achieved within each timestep. This is a typical convergence plot for transient cases.

 November 6, 2001, 09:15 Re: Transient flow #5 omondi Guest   Posts: n/a Hi Herve, Thanks for taking your time to respond to this. I use 20-100 iterations per time step. Yes, convergence takes place per time step, it then swings back to the original values, then converges a little and back again. And the oscillation continues. regards omondi

 November 6, 2001, 12:12 Re: Transient flow #6 Herve Guest   Posts: n/a Okay so what you need to worry about is the convergence within each time step. This is the important feature. So check the convergence within each time step to ensure that after n iterations your residuals have decreased by x order of magnitude and that the solution at the selected nodes does not change. If this is not satisfactory carry out more iterations. I think the oscillatory feature you observe is fairly normal for a transient run.

 November 7, 2001, 05:39 Re: Transient flow #7 omondi Guest   Posts: n/a herve, it oscilates between 1.0E+03 and 1.0E+01 residual values. Yesterday I used 2000 iterations but there was no improvement. In summary again my problems are: 1.No significant convergence 2.The solver tells me, in the output file, that I need pressure boundary [details of thes are in my 1st posting]. why?? Back to you Herve! ochieng

 November 7, 2001, 08:12 Re: Transient flow #8 matej forman Guest   Posts: n/a Hi, could you, please be more specific and write down what physical models do you use. you should not need any boundary. at least I am doing combustion calculations in geometry with just walls. and it is working for 1d case. I didn't work out how to make it converging in 2d case yet. Hi, Matej

 November 8, 2001, 02:47 Re: Transient flow #9 omondi Guest   Posts: n/a Hi matej, How would you use a stirrer in a 1-D case? If you read my first posting, you will notice that I specified some of the details I am now being asked towards the end of the string. However, I will always give the information again. -It is a stirred tank(conventionaly undestood as a cylindrical vessel, unless specified otherwise) -the vessel geometry conforms to the classical configurations (T=3D, T=H, Baffle, B=0.1T, 4 baffles) -agitator is Rushton turbine 6-bladed. Incase this is still not clear feel free and ask for specific details of the geometry.

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