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May 14, 2022, 03:38 |
How to modify the nucleation rate constant of carbon black in the moss-brooks carbon
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杜新雨
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Hi, I want to use Fluent to simulate the effect of ethylene dilution by N2 on carbon fume, but the Moss-Brooks model is based on methane study, and parameter correction is needed, what operation is needed to modify the carbon black nucleation rate constant in the Moss-Brooks carbon fume model? Is it programmed with UDF itself to set it? I hope you can give me an answer, thank you!
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February 5, 2024, 11:46 |
Soot modeling
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Fabio
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Hello!
I also worked a lot with these type of models. You can write UDFs to define nucleation rates for moss-brookes model in Fluent or you can simply type in fleunt terminal "define/models/soot" to activate soot model, and from then you can go to "define/models/soot-parameters" from here you can press enter and see all the options. If you type in "s-m-p" short for "soot-model-parameters" you can modify the constants for the Moss-Brookes model. If you want to do some calibration for carbon black formation, this can be done by fitting the model with the aid of experimental data or taking a look at the "sticking coefficients" which is a specific coefficient to model soot formation for different fuels, and I imagine that your carbon black formation may come from a heavy fuel, so this may help you try to model it. Search for sticking coefficients in the Fluent Theory Guide, it will supply you with the original paper of this discussion. Hope this helps. |
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Arash Fakharnezhad
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Hi Fabio
Could you please help me with the following issue if you are familiar with this model? I'm currently utilizing the Moss-Brookes model within the species model framework for predicting soot. While the model performs adequately, I'm interested in incorporating my own nucleation rate using the User-Defined Function (UDF) option provided by the Moss-Brookes model. Despite implementing the UDF template exactly as provided in the UDF manual (https://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Se...ne_soot_nuclei), it appears that the Fluent solver is disregarding it. Even when I modify values or add print commands within the UDF file, there's no observable change in the nucleation rate or any output in the console. https://i.postimg.cc/MTTs23BX/Picture1.png It's worth noting that when I utilize the soot oxidation model within the model settings, using the template in the UDF manual for soot oxidation rate (https://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Se...soot_oxidation), it operates as expected showing that compiling process is fine! However, as I mentioned earlier the user-defined soot nuclei rates or user-defined soot mass rate seem to be ineffective! Has anyone successfully employed this option (User Defined Functions) before? Is there something crucial that I might have overlooked? https://i.postimg.cc/850Z1dd4/Picture2.png I'd greatly appreciate any insights or assistance regarding this matter. Arash |
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ethylene, soot,moss-brooks |
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