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Old   September 19, 2010, 02:37
Default Torque calculation of 2D VAWT Wind Turbine
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Hello Everyone,

I am working on my Thesis which is basically 2D CFD simulation of Vertical Axis Wind Turbine. I need to calculate the torque generated by a wind turbine in order to find Cp. In this regard I am running 2D simulation with sliding mesh technique and saving the case/data file after every 10 degrees of rotation hence I have 36 files for one complete revolution. Now I am reporting the value of forces in X and Y direction (Fx and Fy) from each case/data file for all 3 Blades. Then I calculate Torque on each blade using formula
T1 = - Fx1.RcosΘ - Fy1.R.sinΘ
T2 = -Fx2.Rcos(Θ+120) - Fy2.R.sin(Θ+120)
T3 = -Fx3.Rcos(Θ+240) - Fy3.R.sin(Θ+240)
Total Torque T = T1 + T2 + T3 (Total Torque “T” is calculated for every 10 degree of rotations)

Average Torque = Σ T/n (0-360 degrees) where n = 360/10 = 36
Please let me know if the method I am using is correct. I am confused about the sign convention of Torque equations. is there any other way to find out Torque and Cp(Coefficient of performance)?
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Old   September 20, 2010, 01:15
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in Fluent you can compute moments (torque)
Report/Forces... choose Moments instead of Forces.
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Old   September 20, 2010, 19:57
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Thanks for your reply. I tried to report the moment in fluent but its all negative. is it cuz my Turbine is rotating in counterclockwise direction? do I have to sum them all up to get the total torque (M= M1+M2+M3) for angle 0-360 degrees?

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If you compute the moment you should give the right axis.
if you set the angular velocity, you should give the right direction (axis-convention)
And yes, if all your moment are computed on the same point, you can add them
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Hi , friend ! im new for Fluent, i also want to get the data from VAWT after simulation. but i dont know how to build up 2D drawing in Fluent. Can you guide me how to build it up in fluent ?
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If you compute the moment you should give the right axis.
if you set the angular velocity, you should give the right direction (axis-convention)
And yes, if all your moment are computed on the same point, you can add them

Hi Max, how are you? i hope that you are well
i simulated 2d VAWT successfully with OF (ggi method) and get the good result for mummentum as expected.
after that i decide to simulate it in 3d Geometry. so i create the 3d geometry and Mesh in Gambit and import it to OF, every thing is ok and i stop the run after 50 rotation degrees. when i see contours of velocity or pressure, every things is ok, but when i extract the mummentum, the result is very bad!!!??? why this happen???
for calculate the forces and mummentum for every blade i added similar code in controlDict file :
forces_1
{
type forces;
functionObjectLibs ("libforces.so");
outputControl timeStep;
outputInterval 100;
patches (Blade1);
PName p;
Uname U;
log true;
rhoInf 1.2;
CofR (0 0 0);



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adapt CofR (0 0 0) coordinates.
They are needed for torque computation
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How to adapt CofR (0 0 0)? i set it at center of rotating object
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How to adapt CofR (0 0 0)? i set it at center of rotating object

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It should be the a point on your rotation axis
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would you mind to seee this froum(from post 8):
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i set my result for 2D and 3D VAWT and case in it. i think that i chose the point on the rotation axis

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do you think or are you sure?
If you go back to your mesher, check if (0 0 0) belong to your rotation axis.
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now i am surely chose the point at the center of axis. i check it witj mesher and paraview? did you see my result and pic that set in the mentianed froum in the last post?

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check if pressure distribution on blades are the same on 2d and 3d
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Anonymized_JL1, good day! I am also working on a three bladed VAWT for my thesis.. I am currently building my gemometry and mesh using ICEM CFD. I started with a 1/3 portion of the turbine and had generated its unstructured mesh.. Do u have any suggestion on how to go on with my meshing from this point? How shall I generate the other two parts and how to merge them into a whole rotor. Please help. Thanks in advance..
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