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February 24, 2011, 10:32 |
how does Fluent calculate the pressure and viscous force ?
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esi nikki
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can someone explain me, how does Fluent calculate the pressure and viscous force ?
In the handbook in section "29.3.1 Computing Forces, Moments, and the Center of Pressure" it is only described, that the total force component is computed using the pressure and viscous force vector. But, hoe are they calculated?? I didn't found anything about that in the manual... Thank you! ESI |
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February 25, 2011, 03:23 |
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I think pressure drag = Fx = ∑pA.nx and summation is done over the number of wall faces
For estimating viscous drag stress tensor is needed which is a function of strain tensor obtained by appropriate viscous assumption |
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March 7, 2011, 20:44 |
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@lalupp:
Since you've mentioned, I'm wondering if there are direct ways to output the force and moment during the transient calculation. Let's say per time step for example. It seems to me that we could only use thoses options in "monitor" panel and yet it is restricted to Cl, Cd and Mx only. If you have any thoughts for that please help me out... |
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April 9, 2011, 13:23 |
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Did you find out a direct way to output the forces on a body wrt time ????????
All I can do using FLUENT is to get Cl and Cd using Reference values. Also if the reference values have length & depth then why is there area mentioned. In calculating the Cl or Cd what does FLUENT take into account, length and depth or the ARea ????? Thank you. |
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April 10, 2011, 21:23 |
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from there you can set that you are displayed on the console or grouped in a file. they will come splitted between viscous and pressure. you can avarage them in time, fft'em, everything. |
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April 10, 2011, 22:07 |
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Reporting the forces displays the force (viscous+pr.) at a particular time.
How do I get a plot of the forces vs time. Like how we have it for Cl vs time or Cd vs time. Thank you. |
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April 11, 2011, 11:00 |
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J.-H. Wang
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Dear,
Please search my post in this forum. I have answered myself in a series of discussion. JH Wang |
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June 27, 2011, 21:31 |
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Hi,
I am not clearly about Pressure Resistance, Viscous resistance and total resistance reporting by Fluent. So, In Fluent Total resistance = Viscous R + Pressure R but flowing theory of resistance Viscous R = Pressure R + Frictional R. What is mean Viscous R and Total resistance in Fluent ? Thanks, |
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