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December 16, 2014, 01:47 |
i7-4790k or i7-5820k for FEA,CFD, and Engineering Analysis
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Anon
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I need some help trying to put together another system beyond my current machine for primarily performing finite element optimization type tasks and other engineering analysis. I haven’t built a system for long time. Eventually the machine will become my day to day desktop (currently i7-860). I also need to buy a NAS or a storage server but I think that should be a separate box.
Primary Intended Usage: ================== - Small 2D electromagnetic and thermal finite element simulations (generally < 20,000 elements) as part of an evolutionary optimization algorithm. For each generation of the optimization algorithm tens to a hundred independent designs are evaluated making the simulations extremely parallelizable favoring a large number of cores. I am not going to be running these all the time but currently when I do they generally take ½ day to 2 days to complete. - Rarely some larger scale 3D finite element simulations (generally < 250,000 elements)and some CFD simulations. - Matlab simulations - Solidworks: Relatively simple assemblies -Eventually the machine will become my day to day desktop as my current machine is a i7-860 2.8 GHz, 8 Gb of RAM, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series -I don’t intend to over-clock the machine or play games on it. The two systems I am thinking about are: ============================== i7-4790k; $250 ASUS Z97-AR; $90 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1600; $160 Total: $500 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CyyBzy http://pcpartpicker.com/p/932KGX i7-5820k; $300 ASUS X99-A; $235 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400; $200 Video Card: Passive or semi-passive with Display Port and DVI outputs; $150 Total: $885 Components I have Already Purchased: ============================ Power Supply: Seasonic Case: Fractal Design R5 CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Storage: Crucial MX 100 512 GB SSD (Thinking about exchanging this) Pluses for the i7-4790k: Higher base (4 Gz) and turbo (4.4 GHz) CPU frequency than i7-5820k Relatively in expensive through Microcenter (CPU: $250, MB: $90) Built in graphics hardware Low power draw on load ad idle compared to the i7-5820k Pluses for the i7-5820k: Two additional cores though they are slower Twice the memory bandwidth Maybe more future proof Questions: ======== Which processor and platform is likely to be faster. The i7-4790k has quite a clock frequency advantage while the i7-5820k has two additional cores and twice the memory bandwidth. I know generally for large CFD type simulations a high memory bandwidth is highly recommended. I am not sure memory bandwidth matters much for small finite element simulations though. Can the memory bandwidth of the i7-4790k and Z-97 be increased substantially by using a higher rated frequency memory and with reduced timings? Is the additional cost of the i7-5820k and X-99 platform worth it? I have been toying with the idea of trying to use an Intel Xeon Phi for parallelizing my small simulations further is it likely to work in a ASUS X99-A motherboard in the x16 slot? What is the likely longevity of the Z-97 and X-99 platforms? I tend to keep computers for a very long time. Is DDR3 likely to be phased out soon? While DDR4 while theoretically more future proof I assume the timings and frequency are going to increase rapidly? Is there a go to low cost video card that is passive or semi-passive with display port and DVI outputs? Is the built in video card of the i7-4790k, HD 4600, okay for basic CAD work including Solidworks? Any other thoughts or recommendations on what to purchase? |
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December 17, 2014, 15:01 |
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B_Kia
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hi my friend,
i absolutely recommend i7-5820k , higher cores higher technology higher memory bandwidth , i7-5820 is 4 way channels but 4790 is 2 way channels , and DDR4 works at 1.2v means lower temperature and lower energy consuming, for 4790k max memory bandwidth is 25.6gig/s for 5820k max memory bandwidth is 68gig/s more than twice! For large FEM case as yours it acts the same and you will have higher solution speed , hope these information help you, good luck |
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