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Old   January 8, 2021, 22:00
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-In the original reference experimental setup of Fessler & Eaton, it is clearly written that the setup is held vertically (See 2.1, first paragraph first sentence: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...=rep1&type=pdf)


-I also had downloaded the presentation from that seminar but in my slides the gravity is showed to set in +x direction (see attachement).


-Yes, you should compare the particle velocity profiles at measurement locations.


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Hello,

I think you are right about the direction of gravity, then I tried all kinds of boundary conditions, meshes, and dispersion model. They didn't work. The results are the same as yours - particles not right but the fluid velocity is right compared with the experiment. Now I will try another experiment which is particle dynamical movement in a ventilated room to validate the DEM model of OpenFOAM, to see if the phenomenon we got in OpenFOAM in the backward-case is individual one. Thanks.

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Old   January 11, 2021, 05:10
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Hello Shuo


So far, i couldn't find any problem in my case but unfortunately particle dispersion is not occurring as expected.


Anyway good luck for new case and keep me updated about your progress.


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Old   January 13, 2021, 08:06
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So far, i couldn't find any problem in my case but unfortunately particle dispersion is not occurring as expected.


Anyway good luck for new case and keep me updated about your progress.


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Hello Atul,

When I tested another case, the results are still not very good. What I compared is the particle concentration in a ventilated room. I doubt I calculated the concentration wrong. I calculated it in this way:
Quote:
template<class CloudType>
inline const Foam::tmp<Foam::volScalarField>
Foam::KinematicCloud<CloudType>::concentration() const
{
tmp<volScalarField> tconcentration
(
new volScalarField
(
IOobject
(
this->name() + ":concentration",
this->db().time().timeName(),
this->db(),
IOobject::NO_READ,
IOobject::NO_WRITE,
false
),
mesh_,
dimensionedScalar(dimless, Zero)
//extrapolatedCalculatedFvPatchScalarField::typeName
)
);


scalarField& concentration = tconcentration.ref().primitiveFieldRef();

for (const parcelType& p : *this)
{
const label celli = p.cell();

concentration[celli] += p.nParticle()*p.mass();
}

concentration /= mesh_.V();
//concentration.primitiveFieldRef() /= 1;//mesh_.V();
//concentration.correctBoundaryConditions();

return tconcentration;
}
and also a similar way to calculate the particle velocity in that backward facing case. So how did you calculate particle velocity in the y-direction in backward case. I want to know if my statistical approach for particles are wrong.
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Hello


As i don't know the details about your ventilation case, I cant really say about your code regarding concentration calculation.



Regarding BFS case, I extracted particle ID, velocity and position at certain time (say 0.07 sec after insertion of particles). The extracted data are evaluated at slice around each measurement location (x/H=2,5,7,9,12) keeping the measurement location at center of slice. Now you have particle distribution along y direction in each slice. Now you can plot particle velocity profile for the particle in that slice.


I extracted particle data exactly the same way done by Greifzu et.al. You should read the paper of Greifzu et.al.: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/...0.2015.1104266



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Hi, atul1018. Did you solve the problem? I have met the same problem recently. I also found that the particles in the Y-axis direction do not settle down. If you have found the solution, could you please share your method? Thanks a lot.
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As i don't know the details about your ventilation case, I cant really say about your code regarding concentration calculation.



Regarding BFS case, I extracted particle ID, velocity and position at certain time (say 0.07 sec after insertion of particles). The extracted data are evaluated at slice around each measurement location (x/H=2,5,7,9,12) keeping the measurement location at center of slice. Now you have particle distribution along y direction in each slice. Now you can plot particle velocity profile for the particle in that slice.


I extracted particle data exactly the same way done by Greifzu et.al. You should read the paper of Greifzu et.al.: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/...0.2015.1104266



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Hi, atul1018. Did you solve the problem? I have met the same problem recently. I also found that the particles in the Y-axis direction do not settle down. If you have found the solution, could you please share your method? Thanks a lot.
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Did you solve the problem? I have met the same problem recently. I also found that the particles in the Y-axis direction do not settle down. If you have found the solution, could you please share your method? Thanks a lot.
-I tried with all I could but I could not able to get better results for particles. Let me know if you make any progress.
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-I tried with all I could but I could not able to get better results for particles. Let me know if you make any progress.
Thanks for your reply. I will try some ways to see if this situation can be improved. I will tell you if I get any progress. Thanks and have a good day!
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