
[Sponsors] 
calculation of thermal conductivity in reactingFoam 

LinkBack  Thread Tools  Search this Thread  Display Modes 
January 12, 2012, 09:37 
calculation of thermal conductivity in reactingFoam

#1 
New Member
tomek
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 13
Rep Power: 10 
hello,
i am comparing simulation results in fluent to simulation results in openfoam. in my case i am working with two species which stream over a heated wall in reactingFoam. (in OF 2.0.1) now i want to set all bc's and coefficients for calculations to the same value. in fluent the calculations of cp, mu and kappa are done using a polynomial. i managed to fit the values for cp and mu in reactingFoam. this was simply done in my thermo.compressibleGasfile by changing the coeffs and the transportvalues As and Ts. but i can not find the place where i can see and change the calculation of the thermal conductivity kappa(?) in reactingFoam. could anybody help me and explain how and where thermal conductivity is calculated? thank you.... tomek 

January 16, 2012, 09:37 

#2 
New Member
tomek
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 13
Rep Power: 10 
Hey,
Now I am working with OpenFoam for almost two months and I think after some time of searching for the calculations used by reactingFoam I understood how it is managed with its subdirectories. Please correct me in my thoughts if i am wrong: When i have choosen hsPsiMixtureThermo<reactingMixture<sutherlandTrans port<specieThermo<janafThermo<perfectGas>>>>> I have to look for the calculations in this Files? So conductivity kappa is calculated in sutherlandTransport by using mu, R and Cv. Also the viscosity mu and the thermal diffusivity alpha is calculated here. The turbulent parts alphat and mut are calculated according to the turbulenceModel which is choosen (here: kOmegaSSt) and calculated in the belonging directory. In the end it is added to alphaEff and muEff. Is this right? Now I went on searching for the mass diffusivity but I could not find any calculation handling this problem. In fluent, diffusivity is calculated using Fick with ChapmanEnskog and LennardJones parameters. Is there something comparable in OpenFoam? The only thing I found was the effective Diffusivity, but this is used for the k and omega terms in the turbulencecalculation.... So please help me if you know how and where mass diffusivity is calculated, or what i have to change in my settings to achieve that. thanks... tomek Last edited by sto16; February 3, 2012 at 06:14. 

April 20, 2012, 08:15 

#3 
New Member
Pang
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Denmark
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 11 
Hi Tomek,
Do you have any update with the calculation including mass diffusivity? I'm looking into it too but to do this, it seems like we need to modify the code. Pang. 

April 24, 2012, 08:02 

#4 
New Member
tomek
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 13
Rep Power: 10 
hey pang,
there are no separate calculations for mass diffusivity and thermal diffusivity. so if u need them u'll have to construct a new solver which includes the terms.... tomek 

April 26, 2012, 02:32 

#5 
New Member
Pang
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Denmark
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 11 
Morning Tomek,
Yes, I realised that too. There are some 'addion' codes which can be integrated into reactingFoam but most of them seem to work for the olderversionOpenFOAM. I'm using 2.0.x and hence thinking how to do it. Thanks. Best regards, Pang. 

May 9, 2012, 15:22 

#6 
New Member
Carl
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 10 
Hi all,
In laminar combustion cases, in order to calculate viscosity (mu) and thermal conductivity (alpha), we define As and Ts in the OpenFOAM thermodynamic properties format (as given in the reactingFoam tutorial). As such, mu is calculated by Sutherland Transport equation while alpha should be calculated using Eucken model based on mu. Kindly correct me if I am wrong. However, I still have a question regarding this mu and alpha calculation. If we provide the chemistry and thermo data in the directory $FOAM_RUN/chemkin, thermo data is in the form of O2 121386O 2 G 200.00 5000.00 1000.000 and seven coefficients for Janaff interpolation are given for first and second temperature ranges, respectively. This is in the form of typical Chemkin format (as given in the dieselFoam tutorial). In this case, how are both mu and alpha calculated? Hope that all the senior Foamers can advise. Thanks in advance. Regards, Carl. 

May 15, 2012, 05:18 

#7 
New Member
Carl
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 10 
These are my files. Can anyone please advise?
Carl 

July 27, 2012, 03:35 

#8 
New Member
Pang
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Denmark
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 11 
Hello,
In case anyone of you is still interested to know: The As and Ts values are fixed at 1.67212e06 and 170.672, respectively. Check chemkinLexer.L Best regards, Pang Last edited by kmpang; July 27, 2012 at 04:59. 

February 19, 2013, 07:29 

#9 
New Member
何刚
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 11 
So what do you want to say? Don't you know why the values are the same?


September 11, 2013, 15:23 
regarding reactingFoam solver

#10 
Member
sonu
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: delhi
Posts: 92
Rep Power: 9 
greetings oll ,
i am using OF 2.2 and trying to solve my case with the reacting Foam solver the doubt in my mind is that do i need to use chemkin folder along with 0, constant and system in OF 2.2 as it already have a reaction and thermo. file in constant folder as given in counterflowflame2D. thanks in advance Regards sonu . 

April 24, 2017, 23:27 

#11 
New Member
chang
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 5 

April 24, 2017, 23:46 

#12 
New Member
chang
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 5 
Hello！
I see your case and i want to ask you that how to calculate the Ts and As for different species. Can you help me? Thank you!@carl_xw4 

Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Display Modes  


Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
mass flow in is not equal to mass flow out  saii  CFX  12  March 19, 2018 05:21 
Constant velocity of the material  Sas  CFX  15  July 13, 2010 08:56 
Warning 097  AB  Siemens  6  November 15, 2004 04:41 
Porous Media Effective Thermal Conductivity  Greg Perkins  FLUENT  3  August 5, 2001 21:53 
Info: Short Course On Thermal Design of Electronic Equipment  Arnold Free  Main CFD Forum  0  August 10, 1999 10:18 