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April 15, 2016, 21:38 |
How to contribute to the community of OpenFOAM users and to the OpenFOAM technology
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There are several ways you can contribute to an open source project and the community around it. You can Google for the following sentence:
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contribute to an open source project But when it comes to OpenFOAM technology, things might get a bit confusing, given that there are several forks and variants that are based on OpenFOAM - hence the term "OpenFOAM technology". A complete list of forks and variants of OpenFOAM is provided at the unofficial OpenFOAM wiki: http://openfoamwiki.net/index.php/Forks_and_Variants Therefore, there are several ways you can contribute to the OpenFOAM ecosystem, including and not limited to the following ways:
If you have any additional questions on how to contribute, or suggestions on how to improve this list, please ask and/or comment below! ______ In case you're still confused about the terminology of "OpenFOAM technology", "unofficial OpenFOAM-wiki" and all of these projects, here's the simple explanation: OpenFOAMŪ is a registered trade mark of OpenCFD/ESI and official use of the trade mark can only be done with explicitly written permission. For more details, see the trade mark policy. Last edited by wyldckat; June 25, 2017 at 08:21. Reason: added link to how to contribute to the wiki |
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August 26, 2016, 04:13 |
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Hi Bruno,
since when there is a ŧstackoverflowŦ like forum for openfoam? I already heard that the community wants to have some new forum like the stack-overflow one where people can vote answers and so on. I also appreciate this thought but we should do it in a nice way.
I like cfd-online and the wiki and do not want to interact on 4 new sites
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August 26, 2016, 04:31 |
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The Stackexchange site is not live - it's been stuck in proposal stage for over a year I think. I've been advertising it in my signature ever since, and if it ever comes to life I will throw a party. In my opinion, CFD-Online is horrible for finding answers quickly. Ordering replies based on likes does not replicate Stackexchange and would actually break most threads. Many, many questions and answers here evolve over many posts (instead of live, updated responses on SE), and often you need to mangle through multiple closely related threads to find answers (duplicates are not being strictly deleted). CFD-Online by the way already has a solved and rating feature which nobody uses.
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August 26, 2016, 07:12 |
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Hi,
Okay. I did not know that. Thanks for the information. Hmmm... I also like stackoverflow forums for c++ ... I also agree that it is really hard to find the answer quickly in most of the cases. Difficult... I mean all the different sites and so on. Joszef is organising something at the moment based on tutorial stuff but not for a forum. If the stackexchange forum would be used I am in to support people but for me it does not look very serious even if the layout should not matter, I would prefer something better. I was not on the workshop in Portugal but as my colleagues told me, a new forum is not supported by Bruno and Jasak (maybe I missunderstand things). For me one good way would to use the wikisite, put a new index side that shows buttons to the code like -> Openfoam.org, .com and the foam extend project, another one should go to the wiki, another one to the forum (cfd-online; a new stack overflow like one), another one to good pages Luke Chalmers etc... Even the new stack overflow forum could be hosted by the openfoamwiki. Well this are just ideas and I would definitely work on that to make life easier but I am not involved. I also could open a new forum but I think no-one would use it, even it would look very serious. Well, that's my opinion.
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August 29, 2016, 18:09 |
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Hi Tobi and Anton,
I'll have to be quick (although I'll be long-winded...): Quote:
This was kick-started after or during OFW10, if I remember correctly, as Anton already pointed out. The problem is that this effort requires frequent users/contributors of the StackExchange platform and that those users sing up to supporting this particular effort. 100 of those users are needed for making the platform go forward from the proposal stage. They (Tomislav and Jens) also have a server on the ready to support foam-extend more extensively, but there were several setbacks that lead to the server not being available yet to the public. Nonetheless, it's expected that at this year's user conference held by ESI-OpenCFD there will be further discussions with those present on how this or a global community effort can start to go forward at full steam in the near future. A few details are available at my blog, in the following post: 11th community OpenFOAM Workshop: finally managed to attend one of these! Part 3 Nonetheless, please use the contact at their website http://www.sourceflux.de/about/ (top of the page) to ask Tomislav and Jens for more details on how you can contribute to their server. Furthermore, for those who can, please attend this year's User Conference on the 11th to 13th of October 2016 in Cologne, Germany: http://www.esi-group.com/company/eve...onference-2016 Depends on what type of responsibility:
Problem is that (I'm not 100% certain on this) I've been the only moderator more active on the OpenFOAM side. And I've had a massive set-back on free time, partly due to OFW11 (it was in Portugal and I simply had to show up and contribute to it as well), partly due to work and other work-related set-backs. Quote:
However, I noticed just now the that there is poll to change this: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/sit...matically.html Further details on why this poll was started: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/sit...cfd-forum.html Quote:
There is however a "star" ordering already, which was meant to help with this... but rarely anyone uses this feature. There are also tags that can be used/sorted/importance-clustered, but again, rarely anyone uses it and last time I checked it was limited to 5 or 10 tags. There was a thread I started a few years ago to sort out the organization of the OpenFOAM section: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/sit...ams-forum.html - there were a few problems as to why it didn't go forward:
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Nonetheless, there is a need to have those two scenarios well met and kept. But: moderators are always needed for both platforms! Although on SE I have the notion that it's based on points, when people become moderators or not. I've done the best I could when I have the time. But past threads (~2012 and older) and the past few of months have been off my radar Quote:
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But essentially the message I got was that this will only happen if people are truly willing to contribute, as it's already been seen that this is the main detail that has been failing for several years now. Quote:
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From what I discussed with a few people at OFW11, to properly improve on the current forum structure, the "real" solution would be to enforce that people who ask questions on the forum, should be held responsible for writing a wiki page on what was the problem and how the problem was solved. It would be a good learning experience for those who asked about a question and it would help consolidate information. The other hypothesis would be to be able to pick the posts that have the questions and answers that mattered the most and give the summary version of the thread... StackExchange makes these concepts more streamlined, but the discussion itself about a problem would have to be done separately from the Q-A section, which is also something that StackExchange does... problem is whether the original asker will consolidate the original question or not, to meet expectations, since I'm not familiar if the live discussion system allows sending the answers directly to the respective Q-A thread. Either way: attend this year's ESI-OpenCFD User Conference if you want things to move forward!! Best regards, Bruno
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Hi Bruno! Let me start by saying you are doing a fantastic job for the community!
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August 31, 2016, 02:39 |
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On a side note, check out http://www.discourse.org/. It's a "traditional" discussion forum, but implements many of the learnings from Stackexchange, e.g. community moderation features.
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In any case, I hope that a good solution could be found in feature.
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March 22, 2017, 09:25 |
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I saw the the attempt to create an OpenFOAM Q&A failed. That is very sad... I really think that this forum, though being useful in the past suffer several problems:
I really believe that running the main Q&A on a StackExchange site would really improve the quality of support this community is providing lowering also the effort of the community maintainers. StackExchange also provides stanzas where discussion can be pursued for those situations where a well-defined answer is not immediately ready. Moreover StackOverflow at least already ships with a Careers section (that is unfortunately not free for the job promoters) that could embody the same service currently provided here. I believe that all the forum, and not only the OF section, would benefit from switching to SE (there are also opensource alternatives but I think that staying on the SE platform is really a plus!). Maybe we could use the scicomp.stackexchange.com site with specific tags? What I could think is that we take the most liked questions and answers and we migrate them on scicomp. But this does not solve the problem and maybe it creates others since data replication in different places is always the source of all evils (wasn't it precoce optimization?) :P Are there other discussion related to the improvement of the forum experience? Maybe on other threads I do not follow... Last edited by rdbisme; March 27, 2017 at 04:48. |
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March 27, 2017, 04:46 |
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The mechanism that upgrades the users based on their actions that Stack has is great. It introduces a very clear "reward" system that motivates being active.
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March 27, 2017, 05:04 |
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Stack is good one. On the other hand there are restrictions about posting, elitist attitude, downvoter trolls etc. Pros and cons. Just my two cents.
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March 27, 2017, 06:38 |
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Stack has filters for malicious downvotes, downvotes are penalized and a downvote has a small impact compared to an upvote. This really isn't an issue I have ever encountered on the niche sites (which OpenFOAM would have been).
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March 27, 2017, 08:25 |
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I intended to mean elitist and 'How can you ask this? How do you dare to ask this you noob? ' attidude. Format is much more important there rather than the topic or question itself.
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March 27, 2017, 08:35 |
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You noted elitest as a separate point, and also it's an issue not specific to stack but which affects any kind of user generated content. If it's an issue here on CFD-online it would be an issue on Stack, if it aint I don't see why that would change?
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Before asking you need to read and document yourself to pose a correct answer. As a side effect this helps also to understand the answers. Sent from my LeTv x500 (BB72 ROM) |
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Greetings to all!
Sorry for being a bit late to the latest conversations on this topic. @tidusuper91: Quote:
I will update the first post on this thread, to revise this information. I don't know if there are currently any joint efforts being done with ESI-OpenCFD, as part of their efforts they have been doing to work more closely with the community: http://openfoam.com/community/ Quote:
In December 2014, in the anniversary for CFD-Online, Jonas Larsson asked for suggestions, including if we should switch to a StackExchange format, in this thread: CFD Online Celebrates 20 Years Online What I strongly suggest for those on this thread that are interested in improving the community experience, is that someone starts a new thread at https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/si...k-discussions/ suggesting in more detail about this possibility, namely to either switching to a StackExchange format or how the forum can be improved. Because as far as I can figure out, at least for the OpenFOAM technology ecosystem, the only somewhat practical solution requires:
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CFD-Online Community 2.0
I started a thread in the global forum to discuss improvements on CFD-Online community. Feel free to contribute. |
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