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July 20, 2018, 06:38 
GenerateVolumeMesh Error  Surface Wrapper Self Interacting (?)

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Hello Guys,
I'm trying to mesh a full F1 car, and because my previous CFD simulations were much simpler geometries (I used Regions Based Mesh), this is my first time using Parts Based Mesh. For a starting point on the mesh, I'm using Surface Wrapper and Automated Mesh (Surface Remesher, Trimmed, Prism Layer) (following some tutorials my supervisor gave me), but it's not being able to mesh: And this is the error I'm having: "  Surface Remesher Completed: CPU Time: 3053.02, Wall Time: 3056.30, Memory: 18957.27 MB  Following Parts are Self Intersecting Surface Wrapper Command: GenerateVolumeMesh error: Server Error Following Parts are Self Intersecting Surface Wrapper Command: GenerateVolumeMesh command: CommandComplete error: Server Error Design STARCCM+ simulation completed Server process exited with code : 0" I can't really identify what can be causing this. Can anyone give me some hints where I can look for problems causing this? If anyone fancies having a look here it is the file: (Keep in mind you won't be able to run this on a PC, only on cluster, as it's taking 2 hours on a cluster to get to the volume mesh!) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pd8...ew?usp=sharing Thank you 

July 20, 2018, 07:02 

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In case it helps anyone, here is the complete slurm file!
Starting local server: /system/software/generic/brookes/CDadapco/12.04.010R8/STARCCM+12.04.010R8/star/bin/starccm+ mpi intel np 16 machinefile hostfile.txt mppflags "bootstrap slurm" server rsh ssh Perrinn_Benchmark.sim Starting STARCCM+ parallel server MPI Distribution : Intel MPI5.0.3 Host 0  cnode2079  Ranks 015 Process rank 0 cnode2079 3110 Total number of processes : 16 STARCCM+ 12.04.010 (linuxx86_642.5/gnu4.8r8) License build date: 02 February 2017 This version of the code requires license version 2017.06 or greater. Checking license file: 27000@10.4.144.10 1 copy of ccmpsuite checked out from 27000@10.4.144.10 Feature ccmpsuite expires in 74 days Thu Jul 19 11:59:19 2018 Server::start host cnode2079.arcus.arc.local:47827 Loading object database: Perrinn_Benchmark.sim Loading module: StarMeshing Loading module: MeshingSurfaceRepair Loading module: StarSurfaceWrapper Loading module: StarResurfacer Loading module: StarTrimmer Loading module: SegregatedFlowModel Loading module: KeTurbModel Simulation database saved by: STARCCM+ 12.04.010 (win64/intel16.3r8) Tue Jun 6 18:28:42 UTC 2017 Serial Loading into: STARCCM+ 12.04.010 (linuxx86_642.5/gnu4.8r8) Tue Jun 6 18:28:42 UTC 2017 Np=16 Started Parasolid modeler version 29.01.131 Object database load completed. Generating mesh Executing partsbased mesh operations  Executing Automated Mesh Operation: Surface Wrapper  Projecting to CAD geometry where possible  Executing Surface Wrapper  Checking input surface validity done, CPU Time: 0.15, Memory: 1665.66 MB, # Trias: 2960942 Computing Entity Depth computing surface proximity min:max face size 0.0005:0.2 done, CPU Time: 113.98, Memory: 1965.88 MB, # Trias: 2960942 Generating Octree Mesh Estimated size of initial output surface: 35121587 done, CPU Time: 104.87, Memory: 5469.30 MB Obtaining Initial Surface created 29501160 triangles done, CPU Time: 37.94, Memory: 7504.70 MB, # Trias: 29501160 Fixing Nonmanifold Surface done, CPU Time: 22.04, Memory: 9047.18 MB, # Trias: 29501324 Constraining Vertices to Input Surface constraining 14750420 vertices to original surface done, CPU Time: 62.82, Memory: 9159.71 MB, # Trias: 29501324 Improving Triangle Quality done, CPU Time: 23.24, Memory: 9082.70 MB, # Trias: 29110294 Marking flipped faces done, CPU Time: 18.36, Memory: 9206.54 MB, # Trias: 29109238 Defining Features Initializing data structures Retaining Features (1/4) Retaining Features (2/4) Retaining Features (3/4) Defeaturing (4/4) done, CPU Time: 482.23, Memory: 9206.54 MB, # Trias: 29335158 Imprinting Features built 1345 chains of feature edges for imprinting done, CPU Time: 22.91, Memory: 9206.54 MB, # Trias: 29404128 Fixing Baffles found 114 final baffle faces done, CPU Time: 46.68, Memory: 9206.54 MB, # Trias: 29383096 Assigning Face Types to Surface done, CPU Time: 851.12, Memory: 9206.54 MB Reassociating wrapped mesh with CAD Nonmanifold wrap edge to CAD edge mapping for CAD edge 12958 at wrap mesh vertex 3820056 done, CPU Time: 1135.12, Memory: 9206.54 MB Fixing flipped faces done, CPU Time: 35.56, Memory: 9544.16 MB, # Trias: 29311460 Checking for intersections Fixing Intersections done, CPU Time: 225.99, Memory: 9686.33 MB, # Trias: 29310720 Final surface wrap statistics: 29310720 final surface triangles 216083 special edges 0 special vertices 114 baffle faces inflated automatically 0 intersecting edges remain 0 pierced faces remain 100% of input vertices on CAD(1480549/1480549) 100% of input faces on CAD(2960942/2960942) 99.8884% of output vertices on CAD(14638772/14655128) 99.8189% of output faces on CAD(29257631/29310720)  Surface Wrapper Completed: CPU Time: 3422.77, Wall Time: 3426.29, Memory: 8643.90 MB   Automated Mesh Operation: Surface Wrapper complete. CPU Time: 3428.45, Wall Time: 3432.82, Memory: 8610.00 MB   Executing Automated Mesh Operation: Automated Mesh  Checking meshCAD association... done. Found 121 problems, all fixed.  Preparing surface for surface meshing in Parts:   finished preparing surface for surface meshing CPU Time: 28.85, Wall Time: 28.92, Memory: 11064.10 MB  Projecting to CAD geometry  Executing Surface Remesher  Face Quality Faces Percent < 0.001 21 0.0 < 0.01 464 0.0 < 0.05 1764 0.0 < 0.1 2863 0.0 < 0.2 306635 1.0 < 0.3 644209 2.2 < 0.4 1051100 3.6 < 0.5 1662626 5.7 < 0.6 2693155 9.2 < 0.7 4800317 16.4 < 0.8 8865084 30.2 < 0.9 26319407 89.8 < 1.0 29310714 100.0 Worst quality is 8.262e06 initial number of faces: 29310714 starting: Apply Global Limits current number of faces: 29200000 current number of faces: 29100000 current number of faces: 29000000 current number of faces: 28900000 current number of faces: 28800000 current number of faces: 28700000 current number of faces: 28600000 current number of faces: 28500000 current number of faces: 28400000 current number of faces: 28300000 current number of faces: 28200000 current number of faces: 28100000 current number of faces: 28000000 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current number of faces: 4800000 current number of faces: 4900000 Postprocessing found 684 intersections, involving 587 edges, 334 faces, in 39 groups split 60 edges moved 98 vertices now have 681 intersections, involving 618 edges, 347 faces, in 34 groups removed 3 intersections collapsed 6 edges 584 faces with quality below 0.05 fixing poor quality and remaining intersections 177 pierced faces remaining 139 pierced faces remaining 137 pierced faces remaining 4 faces with quality below 0.05 Warning: 247 intersecting edges remaining Warning: 137 intersected faces remaining Face Quality Faces Percent < 0.001 1 0.0 < 0.01 1 0.0 < 0.05 4 0.0 < 0.1 174 0.0 < 0.2 1077 0.0 < 0.3 2151 0.0 < 0.4 4466 0.1 < 0.5 6741 0.1 < 0.6 11711 0.2 < 0.7 35947 0.7 < 0.8 311663 6.4 < 0.9 1673011 34.6 < 1.0 4839098 100.0 Worst quality is 0.0001336 final number of faces: 4839098 Aligned mesh created for 312 surfaces out of a total of 9945 surfaces. 2689 thin surfaces fully removed out of 4097 candidate thin surfaces (out of a total of 9945 surfaces).  Surface Remesher Completed: CPU Time: 3053.02, Wall Time: 3056.30, Memory: 18957.27 MB  Following Parts are Self Intersecting Surface Wrapper Command: GenerateVolumeMesh error: Server Error Following Parts are Self Intersecting Surface Wrapper Command: GenerateVolumeMesh command: CommandComplete error: Server Error Design STARCCM+ simulation completed Server process exited with code : 0 

July 20, 2018, 11:01 

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Started by running the Surface Mesh and having a look at it. I don't know why, but I'm having problem at Contact Patch of the tyres (which I created to avoid problems when CFD!), here are some screen shots! What can/should I do at this area to avoid this distortion of the mesh?
https://imgur.com/uiGJyQW https://imgur.com/xuRrsyc https://imgur.com/vBt1eWs All the rest of the car and mesh, appear to be solid and good quality! 

July 21, 2018, 03:04 

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this is not the way tires are normally done since they compress on the road so it is best to have flat consuming some of the tire and also maybe a chamfer between the round of the tire and the road
cant see your road either but the surface wrapper surface is certainly not good so you can inspect it in the surface repair tool and work out how to improve the geometry or add some more local refinement or fine tune the wrapper settings 

July 23, 2018, 06:10 

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Hi! Before all, let me thank you for your answer and help!
I did my contact patch based on that! I consumed 2mm of the tyre (Note that the tyres have camber, so thats why the contact patch is not in the centre), after consuming 2mm of the tires, i draw a rectangle around that area and extruded to the tyre to increase the smallest size of the geometry. THe thing is that when I used Surface Wrapper before, it was ok doing the mesh, so I never really used refinement of Surface Wrapper or any advanced repair tools! Is there any tutorial that can give me around? On Surface Wrapper I assigned a refinement on that area of contact patch (Target: 1mm, Minimum: 0.5mm), and now I'm trying to run Contact Prevention and Wrapper Defeature between the Tyre itself (not contact patch) and the floor! Is there other Wrapper settings or tweaks I can use to improve the mesh on this zone? Thank you 

July 23, 2018, 06:37 

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Also, I'm not using Automatic Surface Repair, do you think this could help solve the problem? I'll try to put another computer to run and use this tool!


July 23, 2018, 12:16 

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For those who face the same problem. I solved it by using contact prevention and refine a little bit more the area around the contact patch!
Also, on another computer, using the Automatic Surface Repair included in the Automated Mesh seemed to helped and fix the surface at that zone! 

July 24, 2018, 00:14 

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glad to hear
surface wrapping is a powerful tool with many settings but does take time to both learn to use well and even then you need to sometimes do quite a few wraps to get the detail required or fix problems read the help as it explains all the options and also has at least two good tutorials in the mesh section that new users should do 

August 1, 2018, 22:38 

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It looks like you wrapped with 29M faces and the used the remember to coarsen it down to 4M faces. The remesh surface is the one with the intersections. The wrapper reports none.
It can be common to use the remesher to coarsen a wrapped surface but this might be extreme. If you are happy with the wrapped surface: Check the remember settings for the parts which have intersecting faces (find those in manual repair) and use some customs controls to refine those areas. Maybe, however you don’t need to wrap so finely? 

August 2, 2018, 06:51 

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August 2, 2018, 07:48 

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They’re not the same. What is most likely happening is that you’re viewing the root description of the surface wrapper part instead of the remember description.
In the scene displayer property sheet, down at the bottom there is a field for which description to display. 

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