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Old   April 18, 2021, 12:42
Default Number of Vectors in Krylov Solver
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Hello SU2 users,

I am using SU2 707 for my research. Actually, I have three questions.

1) Is there a way to see the final residual (residual from the last linear solver iteration) from the linear solver in screen output or history file?

2) I can control the number of iterations by the LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER variable, but I do not know how many vectors in the Krylov subspace applied in the solver. Is it automatically equal to the maximum number of iterations, if not what is it? (For example in HiSA solver of OpenFOAM, nKrylov and max iteration parameters are assigned separately.)

3) Is there a way to see that iteration completed since the max number of iteration is reached or minimum LINEAR_SOLVER_ERROR convergence criterion is satisfied?

I think that those questions are important because the optimization of CFL number arrangements and linear solver settings depend on the mesh and physics of problem, mostly the physical eigenvalues in the flux jacobian matrices. I have to optimize it because I have limited computational source and I have to complete series of runs at different BC's with strict deadlines.

Thank you for answers and for your time.
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1 and 3) For screen output LINSOL_RESIDUAL and LINSOL_ITER, for history output LINSOL outputs both

2) I think you are referring to FGMRES with restarts? FGMRES uses up to LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER vectors, RESTARTED_FGMRES uses up to LINEAR_SOLVER_RESTART_FREQUENCY vectors and up to LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER total iterations. Other linear solvers in SU2 never restart.
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1 and 3) For screen output LINSOL_RESIDUAL and LINSOL_ITER, for history output LINSOL outputs both

2) I think you are referring to FGMRES with restarts? FGMRES uses up to LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER vectors, RESTARTED_FGMRES uses up to LINEAR_SOLVER_RESTART_FREQUENCY vectors and up to LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER total iterations. Other linear solvers in SU2 never restart.
Hello,

Thank you very much for brief explanation and answers for 1 and 3.

When it comes to 2, I still have some troubles.

I am using FGMRES and ILU preconditioner with zero level. Linear solver settings are as shown below.

% ------------------------ LINEAR SOLVER DEFINITION ---------------------------%
%
% Linear solver for the implicit (or discrete adjoint) formulation (BCGSTAB, FGMRES)
LINEAR_SOLVER= FGMRES
%
% Preconditioner of the Krylov linear solver (NONE, JACOBI, LINELET)
LINEAR_SOLVER_PREC= ILU

%
% Min error of the linear solver for the implicit formulation
LINEAR_SOLVER_ERROR= 1E-10
%
% Max number of iterations of the linear solver for the implicit formulation
LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER= 25


Let me write what I understood below. Linear solver starts with a maximum number of 25 iterations unless linear solver error condition is satisfied.

I think that the solver starts with the construction of Krylov subspace vectors at each iteration (I do not know how many vectors in it, actually I tried to ask it.). After the execution of GMRES algorithm, first iteration is completed.

New residual is calculated for the second iteration with other Krylov basis vectors until max iteration or linear solver residual criterion is satisfied.

I tried to ask the number of Krylov basis vectors in the solver, but I understood from your answer that LINEAR_SOLVER_ITER is actually the number of Krylov subspace basis vectors to which gram-schmidt orthogonalization is applied to find the cost function. It also means that there is no second tour of Krylov construction procedure.

If it is true all I need your approval but if it is not I have still some problems with the notation and variables.
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Old   April 23, 2021, 10:58
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The linear solvers in SU2 are implemented exactly as they are described in the literature, see for example the fundamental book by Saad.
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