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February 18, 2013, 11:02 |
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tmeysam92
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Hi all,
i meshed my geometry in ICEM CFD. then i exported to Fluent. now,i want to have different initial velocity for two parts of my geometry. what should i do? thanks in advance. Meysam. |
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February 18, 2013, 11:04 |
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someone told me that i should use below way in Fluent:
adapt-region-mark solution initialization-patch is it right? |
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February 18, 2013, 12:09 |
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I suggest to solve the problem in ICEM not in FLUENT ...
when meshing, give different name for each part and set the boundary conditions you want for each before exporting to FLUENT also, you can modify the boundary conditions freely for each part in FLUENT GOOD LUCK Mamdouh |
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February 18, 2013, 12:28 |
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i know that i can use icem cfd for bounday condition and i used it for naming inlet, outlet, wall, etc. my question is about naming a volume, not a surface or edge. we always select a face or surface in 3d geometry for naming as boundary condition. how can i do that for volume? should i use "create part" tool for volume? how? thanks in advance. Meysam. |
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February 18, 2013, 12:50 |
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Ghazlani M. Ali
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In icem cfd , when you click on create new part, look below and choose "blocks", like that will be able to name one block FLUID1 and the other block FLUID2...
Of course this only applies if your mesh is structured |
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February 18, 2013, 12:50 |
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With both methods you will get same result. And ICEM method will give you more problems as you have to define the faces on interface of both fluids as internal. If you want two fluids only for initialization then Fluent method is preferable as it does not changes the thing in general.
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February 18, 2013, 13:07 |
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the method in fluent is easier, but in fluent i should use adapt reging, you know there are three choices for marking a region, hex,cylinder,sphere(look at below picture), now the problem is that my geometry is a nozzle, and its not like those choices. what should i do? |
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February 18, 2013, 13:15 |
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hex means the you will mark the elements included in sort of a "box" defined by xmin and xmax, ymin and ymax, zmin and zmax. It's up to you to see the boundaries of that box. if you flow is along x, then xmin means the position of your inlet, until the xmax you wanted to...
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February 18, 2013, 13:24 |
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i want to simulate flow in and out of the nozzle, so there is a big cylinder around the nozzle, that the volume between nozzle and cylinder is for simulating the flow out of the nozzle. now i want to have different initial velocity for just inside of the nozzle , now the problem is that i can not chose a hex or sphere or cylinder, becouse of special geometry of the nozzle. did you get what i mean?? |
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February 18, 2013, 13:27 |
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i think you can, play with it a little a bit so you can understand how it works, give some random values and hit adapt. then click on manage, and display, you then see the elements that have been adapted
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February 18, 2013, 13:32 |
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i tried to use icem cfd for my proble,. i am using icem cfd interactive method for meshing. so when it opens icem cfd, first of all i have to choose create block that its name should be "CREATED_MATERIAL", now when i split the block to two parts, then i use create part like you said, and i named two parts fluid1,fluid2.but the first part,"craeted_material" is vanished and the mesh is not good.(look at below pictures). |
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February 18, 2013, 13:39 |
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that is just a problem with face association, can you join the project in which you have created those part FLUID1 and FLUID2 let me take a look at it. or just remove face association where the two block meet
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February 18, 2013, 13:52 |
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file is below. |
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February 18, 2013, 14:01 |
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there you go , as i said problem with association
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35161486/fi...id1-fluid2.zip |
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February 18, 2013, 14:21 |
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Just press mark. With adapt fluent will refine/coarsen mesh.
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February 18, 2013, 14:26 |
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as i told you, because of using icem cfd interactive mood, when it opens icem cfd, first i have to use "create block", and i should name that "CREATED_MATERIAL".the problem is that after creating two new parts,fluid1 and fluid2, the first part(CREATED_MATERIAL) is deleted. and when i meshed my geometry, in returning back to ansys meshing, it gives me error(because of deleting CREATED_MATERIAL part). do you know why it happens?? |
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February 18, 2013, 14:29 |
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i'm sure you will find your answer here :
http://www.ansys-blog.com/2012/10/04...d-interactive/ Everything is explained well |
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February 18, 2013, 14:31 |
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